it needs some patches and a few rolls of tape.

I read my kids the story of Rumplestiltskin last night. It's the one where the damsel spins straw into gold. I'm not sure if we'll get straw or gold out of Redmond this time (hoping for the latter), but Joshua Howard is a master of spin. I mean every quote of his I've read is pure marketing gold. He's always on message and the message is that Flight is the best thing since sliced bread.Just for discussion:"Marketing is what you do when your product is no good." -- Edwin Land

About marketing : What better way to launch a product than to organize a "PSEUDO" public beta test, knowing that many people will rush on this same product... Furthermore it follows that the discussions between testers and non testers create the buzz. Microsoft (I do not mean developers) knows perfectly well what he does.Just in case I don't blame the testers, I could have been one too.IMO this marketing tecnique does not bode well for the future of the product.Richard Portier

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by DrumsArt

And pseudo videos too, right?

FS11 new name will be Crimson Skies 2 :(

Sky Drift Jr.

And pseudo videos too, right?

Jim.It's already free...DUH! :)

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by Barnstormer1

And pseudo videos too, right?

Of course not, I'm not talking about reality/quality of the videos. Having said that, since you mention it I think it's also eye/candy/bla bla marketing. :( In my opinion of course !Do you think really that a public beta test during +- five weeks is not an operation marketing ?Regards,Richard Portier

But if the beta testing is pseudo, then the videos have to be pseudo too, right?

But if the beta testing is pseudo, then the videos have to be pseudo too, right?

What do you mean please ?Richard Portier

If the beta testing was false, then the MS videos have to be false also, right? Seeing they were made with the very same program that the beta testers used.

If the beta testing was false, then the MS videos have to be false also, right? Seeing they were made with the very same program that the beta testers used.

Well, we're not talking about the same thing. You will notice that I put the word "pseudo" between "". Sorry to repeat me but I just want to say that a public test during +-5 weeks is just made for attracting people to download it, participate and therefore1-Buzz2-Create a large potential user when product will be released.Just marketing that's all, no more, no less.Regards,Richard Portier

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by DrumsArt

Still being under the NDA I will not comment on whether you are right or wrong.

Still being under the NDA I will not comment on whether you are right or wrong.

I think Arwen pretty much let the cat out of the bag on this question already! :(

Have read soooo many posts in the last 2 days it's hard to keep em all straight.1. It was Buzz, but the wrong kind of buzz.2. Just the opposite.

Alain, thanks for the laugh. Perfect timing.

1. It was Buzz, but the wrong kind of buzz.2. Just the opposite.

Oy vey, Jim. What are we in for? Wait, don't answer that.

Edited February 8, 201214 yr by N738NM

Great vid! But then I' m just a dumb kid...Military story - so should probably start with "this is no manure" - but a Marine Bronco pilot (yea, about 30 years ago) took a bird strike on the leading edge when he flew into Rickenbacker. He got some armorer's duct tape from me (loading bombs on A7s at the time), patched his wing, and continued to the east coast. Of course, cruise speed was probably the same as the ultralight in your video...