Hello,After following the tutorial #2, I wanted to do the LLZ West procedure at LOWI, but I cannot find this approach in the FMC.My mistake or do I need other navdata or...?Best Regards,Bert Van Bulck

It's not in the database, so that's why it doesn't show up on the FMC. Some kind soul may code it up for us someday and post it here, though...

Is it not in the Navigraph packages?Bert Van Bulck

Its a visual approach, does that have anything to do with why its not in the FMC?You could manually entre it into the FMC by use Place / Bearing / Distance along with these http://charts.vacc-austria.org/LOWI/LOWI_Approach_Visual%20Approach_01072011.pdf

LOC/DME West is not a visual approach. You can break off on the same visual circling procedure used in the East one, but the main part of it is absolutely an instrument approach with MDAs.It's not in the Navigraph database - not sure why, you'd have to ask them. I was told during the writing of Tutorial #2 that airlines in real life have custom RNP procedures for the airport now that can pretty much fly the whole procedure on AP. These are airline specific though and not published to the public.

Hm, I might try to code them if anyone is interested. However there seem to be two procedures - the ordinary LOC/DME and a SPECIAL variant that seems to have steeper segments (11.5% vs. 8.2%). I wouldn't know how to name that special procedure and furthermore I have to idea how to find out if the NG could handle these steep gradients at all. Also the MAP gradients differ quite a bit. In general, the 'ordinary' variant seems to be a more conservative way of shooting the approach, also the minima are way higher. If I'll get something to work I will post it in this very thread.

Hm, I might try to code them if anyone is interested.

That was great!

Eh yeah, there are difficulties. Not sure if that is going to work, as I'm having quite a bit of trouble with that nav DB format... We'll see, no promises though.

It's not in the Navigraph database - not sure why, you'd have to ask them. I was told during the writing of Tutorial #2 that airlines in real life have custom RNP procedures for the airport now that can pretty much fly the whole procedure on AP. These are airline specific though and not published to the public.

Well, they do - for runway 26. That procedure is the very same one published by vACC Austria. Coincidentally, I have flown into Innsbruck yesterday, and I coded the approach so that I can try it. I still need to try a thing or two, but in general, I could post it here. Be aware, though, that it includes, originally, a RF leg, that I have just faked by sequencing two overfly waypoints.

Yeah I've done that one ages ago, and posted somewhere in the depths of the forum.APPROACH RNP26 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500 FIX WI002 9500 FIX WI003 3335 RNW 26 FIX WI005 FIX WI006 FIX OVERFLY WI007 SPEED 165 FIX OVERFLY WI008 SPEED 165 FIX WI006 FIX WI005 FIX WI003 FIX WI002 FIX WI001 AT OR ABOVE 9500 HOLD AT FIX WI001 RIGHT TURN INBOUNDCOURSE 226 ALT 9500 LEGTIME 1Can't even remember if it worked... Gotta try right now.

Same as mine, only I have 3290 on WI003.