May 7, 201214 yr I've only fired it up once. Will try soon again. It looked pretty much the same as FSX to me, which is not very appealing with it's cartoon style looks...
May 7, 201214 yr Here's why I like FLIGHT: When I first started my RL PPL training, I told my instructor, Harvey, that I had flown, literally, thousands of hours in MSFS over the years; mainly in the 172 and small GA. There was an audible groan from H. Oh no, he said. I wish you hadn't. What? I said? Are you mad? I know how to use VOR/NDB and even ILS systems; I can read a navigation map; I can navigate; I know all of the systems, AND I can fly perfect cross-wind landings. What are you on about?! Shut-up, he said. Get in. I got in. I spent the next hour staring at the Big Five and being told off for not looking out of the window..This slowly got better, but it was really hard to wean myself of the need to continually check my dials. I had a bit of a hiatus over the last year or so, and had to travel a lot for work, and basically stop spending stupid amounts of money once or twice a week to go and fly.. Flight came out; I spent a month or two flying around Hawaii in the RV and the Maule. I loved it. I went back to see Harvey in the last month, as I'm not getting any younger, and I want to finish my PPL before EASA ruin GA for me (and everyone else). "What's happened to you?", he said; what are you on about, say I.."You're looking out of the window", he said.."In the last twenty-five minutes, you haven't looked at the instruments for more than a second" Ahh, I say; I've been flying in MS' new flight sim; it's called Flight..He went away and downloaded it, and the next time I saw him, he was like.."wow, that's got very good flight physics, and its stopped you fixating on your instruments..I heartily recommend you keep flying it" 'nuff said j JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
May 8, 201214 yr Here's why I like FLIGHT: When I first started my RL PPL training, I told my instructor, Harvey, that I had flown, literally, thousands of hours in MSFS over the years; mainly in the 172 and small GA. There was an audible groan from H. Oh no, he said. I wish you hadn't. What? I said? Are you mad? I know how to use VOR/NDB and even ILS systems; I can read a navigation map; I can navigate; I know all of the systems, AND I can fly perfect cross-wind landings. What are you on about?! Shut-up, he said. Get in. I got in. I spent the next hour staring at the Big Five and being told off for not looking out of the window..This slowly got better, but it was really hard to wean myself of the need to continually check my dials. I had a bit of a hiatus over the last year or so, and had to travel a lot for work, and basically stop spending stupid amounts of money once or twice a week to go and fly.. Flight came out; I spent a month or two flying around Hawaii in the RV and the Maule. I loved it. I went back to see Harvey in the last month, as I'm not getting any younger, and I want to finish my PPL before EASA ruin GA for me (and everyone else). "What's happened to you?", he said; what are you on about, say I.."You're looking out of the window", he said.."In the last twenty-five minutes, you haven't looked at the instruments for more than a second" Ahh, I say; I've been flying in MS' new flight sim; it's called Flight..He went away and downloaded it, and the next time I saw him, he was like.."wow, that's got very good flight physics, and its stopped you fixating on your instruments..I heartily recommend you keep flying it" 'nuff said j Interesting. However, I don't think you need Flight to break that habit. Moreover, you would rely a little bit more on instruments in a flightsim as we lack both the "seat of the pants" sensory input as well as the field of view one gets in the real thing. In any case, you don't describe anything that previous versions could not have afforded you. In any case, it seems to be having the desired effect. Jeff Bea I am an avid globetrotter with my trusty Lufthansa B777F, Polar Air Cargo B744F, and Atlas Air B748F.
May 8, 201214 yr Author Ahh, I say; I've been flying in MS' new flight sim; it's called Flight..He went away and downloaded it, and the next time I saw him, he was like.."wow, that's got very good flight physics, and its stopped you fixating on your instruments..I heartily recommend you keep flying it" Very neat story Jake - I always like to hear that simmers also get to live their dream of actually flying, that is one thing I would love to do, always have wanted to do, and unfortunately probably will never get to do. That is why I like flight simming so dang much, really for the last few years that is the only kind of gaming I have had on my computers, and a big reason I got so into building my own computers along with overclocking, to get the sims running as good as I could possibly get, within my budget. Thanks for sharing! Don B
May 8, 201214 yr I thought this was the FSX forum?? Ron No, this is the MS Flight forum. The FSX forum can be found here: http://forum.avsim.net/forum/121-ms-fsx-forum/
May 9, 201214 yr In any case, you don't describe anything that previous versions could not have afforded you. That wasn't my intention, Jeff - I was merely stating a reason why I like Flight, as per the topic title I agree - it could have been any sim, but I think the layoff from RW flying, and then being "forced" to "just fly" in FLIGHT, just gave me that edge to look out of the window for years, I busied myself with "technical" not "seat of the pants" flying. Harvey says that they get a lot of armchair pilots, and they ALL fixate on the instruments for the first few hours, until they break that habit.. Don, never say never..I'm lucky in that I can occasionally divert some of my spare cash into flying, and lucky also that I have an amazing girlfriend (of 16 years and two kids LOL) who is wholeheartedly behind me "chasing the dream". It can be prohibitively expensive, though..I have found a new guy who was a BA training pilot who takes people up from Old Sarum in a powered glider, and for £50 a lesson (instead of £140), but I've not had any experience of that type, so I'm a little wary - powered glider sounds like an oxymoron to me LOL If you lived near here, I'd take you up on a lesson in the back seat; I've taken a few mates; they (Bomo FC) are good about that kind of thing, and it's already prompted one friend to start lessons himself..Spread the love and all that J JAKE EYREIt's a small step from the sublime to the ridiculous...Napoleon Bonaparte
May 9, 201214 yr That wasn't my intention, Jeff - I was merely stating a reason why I like Flight, as per the topic title Hi, thanks for your reply Jake. It is clear that the simplicity of Flight resonates with many and that is great. I am personally grateful that we can fly our desks as flying the real deal is difficult unless you do it for a living (or are "well off"). Over time, I find that I'll hand-fly approaches as much as possible, regardless of how heavy the aircraft is (Cub to Queen, etc.). What is exquisite, for me at least, is to engage in all possible activities in the same flight. I can start with programming the navigational computers and do all that planning, but then conduct certain phases of flight by hand. For instance, I can fly all the way up to cruise by hand; I can even do so with the FD off by just using raw nav to get to a VOR or waypoint. Similarly, I can get down by hand as well all the way up to joining the final approach (visual or instrument is fine). Another appeal of flying is the sense of going somewhere, like I am going from point A to B with some purpose. In Flight you have aerocaches to give a sense of purpose, but others are possible as well. Accordingly, it is no surprise to me that a good chunk of private pilot training does focus on cross-country A-B flying. I can see that the appeal of Flight for many is akin to the same motivations behind the Sport Pilot and Recreational certifications from the FAA: it is for people who don't mind being geographically limited as they just want to enjoy being airborne. As such, it seems that Flight delivers that experience very well indeed. Others might want an ATP-level of engagement and we are all very aware that there are outlets for that too. Flight has unquestionably resonated with many as it purposefully and mainly focuses on just those "light" and "recreational" aspects. Who knows, perhaps more PPL, Commercial, and IFR aspects will emerge as the Flight cohort of sim pilots matriculate to that level. Anyhow, great story you've shared with us Jake. Jeff Bea I am an avid globetrotter with my trusty Lufthansa B777F, Polar Air Cargo B744F, and Atlas Air B748F.
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