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Hi Everyone!

 

I am really considering making a switch from fsx to fs2004. I bought an alienware computer thinking that I would be able run fsx maxed out, but I was very wrong. However, I have several concerns with making the upgrade that I must ask about:

 

1) Am I correct in assuming that I will be able to run fs2004 with the addons Ground Environment Pro, FS Global 2010, My world 2005, REX fs2004,Acticve Sky Evolution, Fsdreamteam Ohare, PMDG 747, FS2CREW, Pro Flight Emulator, and a traffic program to make fs2004 look better than fsx default?

 

2) Will I be able to run the above addons together with sufficient fps (at least 25)? Am I correct in assuminfg that I still will get better performance than fsx? I dont want to waste my money again on addons only to see I get 12 fps in a pmdg at an fsdreamteam airport.

 

3) What order should I install the above addons?

 

4) What is the best traffic program for fs9? I really want to be able to go to Newark Liberty in the sim and be able to see the new United Airlines after the merger with continental.

 

I know this is a lot of questions but I would really appreciate if you took the time to answer them for me and clear things up as I prepare to switch to fs9. Thank you so much for all your help!

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i went from fsx to fs9 and love it, it's so fast and smooth 70-200fps on my i7 system. i haven't touched fsx in 2 months. With fsx i got around 20-40fps all the time in dx9 but i'm in love with fs9 now and with alot of addons, fs9 looks like fsx.

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the only thing FS9 doesnt have is the PMDG NGX.. i loved FS9 but with my Avarage system FSX is okey..

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Hi Everyone!

 

I am really considering making a switch from fsx to fs2004. I bought an alienware computer thinking that I would be able run fsx maxed out, but I was very wrong. However, I have several concerns with making the upgrade that I must ask about:

 

1) Am I correct in assuming that I will be able to run fs2004 with the addons Ground Environment Pro, FS Global 2010, My world 2005, REX fs2004,Acticve Sky Evolution, Fsdreamteam Ohare, PMDG 747, FS2CREW, Pro Flight Emulator, and a traffic program to make fs2004 look better than fsx default?

 

2) Will I be able to run the above addons together with sufficient fps (at least 25)? Am I correct in assuminfg that I still will get better performance than fsx? I dont want to waste my money again on addons only to see I get 12 fps in a pmdg at an fsdreamteam airport.

 

3) What order should I install the above addons?

 

4) What is the best traffic program for fs9? I really want to be able to go to Newark Liberty in the sim and be able to see the new United Airlines after the merger with continental.

 

I know this is a lot of questions but I would really appreciate if you took the time to answer them for me and clear things up as I prepare to switch to fs9. Thank you so much for all your help!

 

Could you list your hardwares here? (CPU+RAM+VGA....) That will decide your graphic and FPS.

 

The best traffic program for Fs9 is actually freeware. AIG! (Alpha-India Group). You have to add the flightplans and aircrafts manually (with the help from very powerful software - AI Flight Planner). There is one United Winter 2011 which probably the latest out there (includes United-Continental merger)

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the only thing FS9 doesnt have is the PMDG NGX.. i loved FS9 but with my Avarage system FSX is okey..

 

it has the ifly 737ng which looks like the ngx in fsx and of course the awesome PMDG MD-11 and 747, Plus Captain Sim 757 and Level D 767 which all look like the fsx version. Trust me, watch some videos on youtube and you won't be able to tell the difference between fsx or fs9.

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FS9 still rocks of course and is more than enough for many of us.

Great performance, thousands of sceneries, wonderful aircraft and tools, stability, etc.

 

However...

 

to make fs2004 look better than fsx default?

 

Please don't expect too much in this respect. Ground textures resolution in FSX is much higher than is FS9.

FSX ground also has less tendency to blurr. In my view the look of the environment is the only important aspect where FSX beats FS9.

So I am afraid even with the best texture/vector/landclass addons (GePro, UT, REX, Zinertek, etc), FS9 ground will no way look like FSX.

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it has the ifly 737ng which looks like the ngx in fsx and of course the awesome PMDG MD-11 and 747, Plus Captain Sim 757 and Level D 767 which all look like the fsx version. Trust me, watch some videos on youtube and you won't be able to tell the difference between fsx or fs9.

 

 

It has Airsimmer :D

 

 

 

*peace

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It has Airsimmer :D

 

 

 

*peace

 

omg i completely forgot about Airsimmer, lol downloading it now for $39.99 it looks amazing!

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To get the best traffic you need to to some work yourself.

 

If you go the wholely freeware route you will need to do a lot of ork, or you could start with Ultimate Traffic and edit from there.

 

I still use UT classic version for my traffic, but it bears no relation to how it came out of the box. I have replaced all (I mean all) the a/c over the years with models from Aardvark;Evolve;AIM;AIG;OSP;TFS plus the new arrivals UTT. You can find all the models and textures on the two main FSIM sites or their own websites , links at least.

 

The advantage i like with sticking with UT is that when I create a new airline (either brand new or to replace BAW;UAL or whoever when a new schedule is released, I can use the create timetable function.

 

Peter

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Thank you all so much for replying to this topic. My specs are here:

 

Alienware M17x

Intel Core i7 940X 2.13 Ghz (3.33 Ghz turbo)

6 GB RAM DDR3

ATI radeon 5870

 

For my hardrive I was thinking of using a dedicated fs9 1TB eSATA Iomega professional external harddrive.

 

Will this system be capable of running the addons Ground Environment Pro, FS Global 2010, My world 2005, REX fs2004,Acticve Sky Evolution, Fsdreamteam Ohare, PMDG 747, FS2CREW, Pro Flight Emulator, full traffic, and TSS sounds together to achieve at least 25 fps?

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Will this system be capable of running the addons Ground Environment Pro, FS Global 2010, My world 2005, REX fs2004,Acticve Sky Evolution, Fsdreamteam Ohare, PMDG 747, FS2CREW, Pro Flight Emulator, full traffic, and TSS sounds together to achieve at least 25 fps?

Your system specs look more than adequate to run FS9 along with the addons you listed. It should run in excess of 30fps.

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Please don't expect too much in this respect. Ground textures resolution in FSX is much higher than is FS9.

FSX ground also has less tendency to blurr. In my view the look of the environment is the only important aspect where FSX beats FS9.

So I am afraid even with the best texture/vector/landclass addons (GePro, UT, REX, Zinertek, etc), FS9 ground will no way look like FSX.

 

Thats true, you can make FS9 look like FSX while one the ground at addon airport. You can make the sky and clouds look the same, but what you cant make look as good as FSX is the ground tiles due to the higher res capability of FSX and of course the water in FSX looks much better. If I could get FSX resolution ground textures into FS9 I would go back and get the FSX water in there as well.

 

Thank you all so much for replying to this topic. My specs are here:

 

Alienware M17x

Intel Core i7 940X 2.13 Ghz (3.33 Ghz turbo)

6 GB RAM DDR3

ATI radeon 5870

 

No wonder you cant run FSX. When you, first mentioned Alienware I thought you probably had some monster running at 4.0ghz or faster. For FSX, its just about manditory to be running at 4.0ghz or faster to get the performance you desire with those addons and 2.13 wont cut it.

 

Btw, WOAI has great freeware AI and I am surprised no one mentioned it, but for the United merger you would need to update the paints manually.

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No wonder you cant run FSX. When you, first mentioned Alienware I thought you probably had some monster running at 4.0ghz or faster. For FSX, its just about manditory to be running at 4.0ghz or faster to get the performance you desire with those addons and 2.13 wont cut it.

 

Will this be Ok for fs9 in your opinion though?

 

Btw, WOAI has great freeware AI and I am surprised no one mentioned it, but for the United merger you would need to update the paints manually.

 

How do I update the paints manually?

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Will this be Ok for fs9 in your opinion though?

 

 

How do I update the paints manually?

 

Yeah it will be ok, but probably not great flying into busy hubs like KJFK with loads of AI. Of course it will perform better than FSX would in the same situation. FS9 still benefits from a higher clock speed as well but you will get away with more from that rig using FS 9 than you would with FSX.

 

As far as the paints you will just need to decompile the flight plans, replace the paints for the new merger, then reassign those paints in the flight plans ans recompile.

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Thank you all so much for replying to this topic. My specs are here:

 

Alienware M17x

Intel Core i7 940X 2.13 Ghz (3.33 Ghz turbo)

6 GB RAM DDR3

ATI radeon 5870

 

For my hardrive I was thinking of using a dedicated fs9 1TB eSATA Iomega professional external harddrive.

 

Will this system be capable of running the addons Ground Environment Pro, FS Global 2010, My world 2005, REX fs2004,Acticve Sky Evolution, Fsdreamteam Ohare, PMDG 747, FS2CREW, Pro Flight Emulator, full traffic, and TSS sounds together to achieve at least 25 fps?

Why would you need Active Sky Evo when already have REX?

 

It also depends on your ATI CCC settings +display settings. But with AA/AF in ATI CCC + max Fs9 display settings and GEP, FS Global 2010, REX, FSDT Ohare, PMDG 747, full AI. IMO you only can get a peak at 25fps.

 

If you can push the CPU to a higher core speed, that will help a lot on the fps.

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omg i completely forgot about Airsimmer, lol downloading it now for $39.99 it looks amazing!

 

I see that the advanced version is still not released. It has been a while since I followed the progress on this A320. I lost interest after the way they released the basic version. It seemed like they sabotaged their own product.There were many, many problems with it and it just put me right off.

What is the state of the basic edition now? Is it stable? Is the FMGC (FMC) realistic and does it have a good updatable database that supports SID's, STAR's and approaches with the usual aray of ARINC leg types or does it just import flight plans from FS. Worth getting or wait for the advanced version?

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Some people have experienced registry problems with the FSX and FS9 paths. As soon as you have FS9 installed and if you then remove FSX check the paths with this free registry checker tool from flight1 by right clicking on it and select run as admin in VISTA or Win 7:

 

http://www.flight1.com/view.asp?page=library

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I see that the advanced version is still not released. It has been a while since I followed the progress on this A320. I lost interest after the way they released the basic version. It seemed like they sabotaged their own product.There were many, many problems with it and it just put me right off.

What is the state of the basic edition now? Is it stable? Is the FMGC (FMC) realistic and does it have a good updatable database that supports SID's, STAR's and approaches with the usual aray of ARINC leg types or does it just import flight plans from FS. Worth getting or wait for the advanced version?

 

it is now at ver 1.4 and very stable, i still haven't taken off with it yet, lol i'm reading some manuals and watching youtube videos to learn the plane. I love how you can see through the windows of the plane right through the other side, amazing graphics for an fs9 plane, it looks better than some fsx downloads.

 

 

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wow, thanks do much for posting the info about the airsimmer plane! It looks really amazing. I typically fly United flights so I think I will enjoy that product.

Some people have experienced registry problems with the FSX and FS9 paths. As soon as you have FS9 installed and if you then remove FSX check the paths with this free registry checker tool from flight1 by right clicking on it and select run as admin in VISTA or Win 7:

 

http://www.flight1.c...sp?page=library

 

Thanks for informing me. Will I need to use this tool if I have an external hard drive? Also, I think I may keep fsx on for my orbx GA flying as I still have decent fps when I am not flying heavy planes at very crowded airports in fsx. Will this mean I still need to use the tool?

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I see that the advanced version is still not released. It has been a while since I followed the progress on this A320. I lost interest after the way they released the basic version. It seemed like they sabotaged their own product.There were many, many problems with it and it just put me right off.

What is the state of the basic edition now? Is it stable? Is the FMGC (FMC) realistic and does it have a good updatable database that supports SID's, STAR's and approaches with the usual aray of ARINC leg types or does it just import flight plans from FS. Worth getting or wait for the advanced version?

 

It is more stable than the previous version, it is not perfect but not as bad as what people think, BUT... you are not only learning the Airbus philosophy (no way one jumps into the cockpit and flies the bird)n, you will also become a FS9 mad scientist, you need to tweak a bit, you may encounter CTD's although some people stated that they hardly encountered CTD in so many flights, so you got to know your system well as it works well in some systems and needs to be tweaked in other systems. Unfortunately, in my case, I had to restructure my fs9 from the scratch, it took days since I had to reformat my OS. (I always reinstall my fs9 whenever a new complex add on is about to install)

 

If you're looking for an accurate airbus add on that depicts the FBW perfectly, this is the last resort, options would be great but there aren't...

 

 

but there's a price you gotta pay, I aint talkin bout $40 no.. it's rather cheap for this hobby If you ask me, but you will get a bit of frustration if you don't spend one or two days ONLY for searching and learning and tweaking and asking and ... well, no matter what happened, I won't refund it, so many people have been successfully enjoyed this fierté française

 

 

 

Cheers

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The path includes the drive letter so I would use the registry checker regardless of where FS is located.

 

 

Thanks for informing me. Will I need to use this tool if I have an external hard drive? Also, I think I may keep fsx on for my orbx GA flying as I still have decent fps when I am not flying heavy planes at very crowded airports in fsx. Will this mean I still need to use the tool?

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the only thing FS9 doesnt have is the PMDG NGX.. i loved FS9 but with my Avarage system FSX is okey..

 

A2A products

 

it has the ifly 737ng which looks like the ngx in fsx and of course the awesome PMDG MD-11 and 747, Plus Captain Sim 757 and Level D 767 which all look like the fsx version. Trust me, watch some videos on youtube and you won't be able to tell the difference between fsx or fs9.

 

But the Level D 767 is enhanced in the FSX version so if I would fly the LVD767 again (already have FS9 version) I would prefer to do so on FSX.

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