June 8, 201213 yr Me. Because I have just spent the last 5 days re installing W7 + FSX + 150GB of addons etc, and have just discovered that all I needed to have done was move one item in the scenery library up 2 notches and the ntdll error I was getting in the USA only would have been fixed. Having a very understanding wife helped, I told her that FSX must, at all costs be back up and running ASAP, so she would have to mow the lawns and wash the car. The Doctors at the hospital were great and were able to extract the frying pan from my head with little dis comfort. And when I got home, my clothes were neatly laid out on the front lawn. And if your wondering what the problem was, for some unexplainable reason, UTX airports was not at the top of the USA section. And even though I must have looked there 50 times, I did not see the mistake. Moral of the story: get regular eye sight checks. System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
June 8, 201213 yr Your story is believable....just. It's the bit about you 'telling the wife etc.' that doesn't ring true. She surely would have known to wash the car and mow the lawns in those circumstances. If not, then the real stupid bit on your part, was the lack of proper training! The World is divided into two groups. Those who say "Give me a link" and those that provide the link. WWG1WGA
June 8, 201213 yr Author You are spot on Ron. Another lesson learned <sigh> System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
June 8, 201213 yr Aren't you lucky your wife didn't throw your pc out with your clothes? :) I totally forgot UTX stuff needed to be on top I'm going to do that today, I've been getting some errors recently too. Thanks Lee Sent using Tapatalk
June 8, 201213 yr Was that a cast iron frying pan or just the light weight teflon one? I have slowly gotten rid of the iron ones here :Loser: Bob Officially retired
June 8, 201213 yr Author A cheap teflon one Bob, I am stupid but not silly :LMAO: System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
June 8, 201213 yr A cheap teflon one Bob, I am stupid but not silly :LMAO: We have a lot in common Julian :Hug: Officially retired
June 8, 201213 yr Moderator Funny story mate! In all seriousness however, the true moral of the story should be... ...reinstalling FS (any version) should be the absolute last act of desperation anyone should embark on for darn near any problem. Unless one is starting with an absolutely clean slate (such as you did), simply reinstalling FS (any version) may well not fix the problem one was having anyway! Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
June 8, 201213 yr Hi Julian. Boy, what bu....er. I feel for you. Still take comfort that your missus did not mow you over, never mind your clothes, and wash you down the grid instead of the car. Hey, these things are sent to test our sanity. If you recall, I nearly threw the towel in a couple of weeks ago. Glad you nailed it and that you are with us. Happy Flying! Rick Almeida
June 8, 201213 yr Julian, I feel for you. Nothing worse than having to rebuild an FSX PC with the 1 million add-ons. Suggestion for next time... Send the wife some flowers. A dozen roses goes a long way when it comes time to rebuilding an FSX PC. VATSIM: P2 | I1
June 8, 201213 yr Curious to know what is the UTX Airports entry. I have both UTX USA and Europe but no entries like that in my scenery.cfg. If I have got it completely wrong and its nothing to do with those products add me to the stupidity list. Asus Maximus Hero XI , i7-8086, 16 Gb RAM, nVidia GTX 1080 ti
June 8, 201213 yr Author Funny story mate! In all seriousness however, the true moral of the story should be... ...reinstalling FS (any version) should be the absolute last act of desperation anyone should embark on for darn near any problem. Unless one is starting with an absolutely clean slate (such as you did), simply reinstalling FS (any version) may well not fix the problem one was having anyway! Good advice Fr Bill. I used a backed up scenery config so I did not have to go through the pain of having to sort the config in the correct order. That is how I found the mistake. Never thought for a minute that an incorrect entry in the scenery cfg would cause a ntdll error, but with UTX, it can. Hi Julian. Boy, what bu....er. I feel for you. Still take comfort that your missus did not mow you over, never mind your clothes, and wash you down the grid instead of the car. Hey, these things are sent to test our sanity. If you recall, I nearly threw the towel in a couple of weeks ago. Glad you nailed it and that you are with us. Happy Flying! Thanks Rick. Now I know what you went through. I spent 2 weeks trying to nail it. Julian, I feel for you. Nothing worse than having to rebuild an FSX PC with the 1 million add-ons. Suggestion for next time... Send the wife some flowers. A dozen roses goes a long way when it comes time to rebuilding an FSX PC. And a new fry pan :) Curious to know what is the UTX Airports entry. I have both UTX USA and Europe but no entries like that in my scenery.cfg. If I have got it completely wrong and its nothing to do with those products add me to the stupidity list. Here is the correct layout for any UTX product. Addon scenery should be here [Area.119] Title=UT Exclusions For Default Scenery Local=Scenery\UtExcl Layer=119 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.120] Title=UT Usa Lighting Local=Scenery\UtUsaLights Layer=120 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.121] Title=UT Landclass - Vegetation Local=Scenery\UtLcVeg Layer=121 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.122] Title=SceneryTech Landclass--Africa Local=SceneryTech\Landclass\AF Layer=122 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.123] Title=SceneryTech Landclass--Europe Local=SceneryTech\Landclass\EU Layer=123 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.124] Title=SceneryTech Landclass--North America Local=SceneryTech\Landclass\NA Layer=124 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.125] Title=SceneryTech Landclass--Asia Local=SceneryTech\Landclass\AS Layer=125 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.126] Title=UT Landclass - Urban Local=Scenery\UtLcCity Layer=126 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.127] Title=UT Landclass - Custom Local=Scenery\UtLcCust Layer=127 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.128] Title=UT Usa Roads Local=Scenery\UtUsaRoad Layer=128 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.129] Title=UT Usa Railroads Local=Scenery\UtUsaRail Layer=129 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.130] Title=UT Usa Water Local=Scenery\UtUsaWater Layer=130 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.131] Title=UT Usa Ground Polygons Local=Scenery\UtUsaGP Layer=131 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.132] Title=UT FSX Object Repositioning Local=Scenery\UtObjRepo Layer=132 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.133] Title=UT FSX Waterclass Local=Scenery\UtWc Layer=133 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE [Area.134] Title=UT USA Airports Local=Scenery\UtUsaAirports >>>>>>This was above UT Usa Ground Polygons, which caused my troubles Layer=134 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE UTXCanada or any other terrain product here, then addon airports System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
June 10, 201213 yr Just checked my scenery.cfg file but I don't have this entry at all [Area.134] Title=UT USA Airports Local=Scenery\UtUsaAirports >>>>>>This was above UT Usa Ground Polygons, which caused my troubles Layer=134 Active=TRUE Required=FALSE UTXCanada or any other terrain product here, then addon airports but I do have all the others in the above post. Phil Asus Maximus Hero XI , i7-8086, 16 Gb RAM, nVidia GTX 1080 ti
June 10, 201213 yr Author That's odd Phil. Have you disabled anything in the UT set up tool ? Maybe check with Anthony at the UTX forum @simforums System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
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