LOL We sure are a masochist bunch!

 

ROFL!!

 

:LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:

Ben, thanks for posting that. I actually read that couple of days ago about 10%... but I would like to take it with a grain of salt. Remember the hoorays with had with IB? If Intel manages to get everything in line, good heat transfer, good OC capability, clock for clock advantage, yes, we will be looking at my next upgrade! :P

good heat transfer, good OC capability,

 

These two are key for the success of this generation of CPUs. - I feel like they used IB as a testbed for 22nm and they are perfecting it with Haswell... Hopefully :Big Grin:

 

These two are key for the success of this generation of CPUs. - I feel like they used IB as a testbed for 22nm and they are perfecting it with Haswell... Hopefully :Big Grin:

 

Sucks to know we were being used as guinea pigs. haha

Ben, thanks for posting that. I actually read that couple of days ago about 10%... but I would like to take it with a grain of salt. Remember the hoorays with had with IB? If Intel manages to get everything in line, good heat transfer, good OC capability, clock for clock advantage, yes, we will be looking at my next upgrade! :P

 

Indeed, it's what I am banking on still hobbling along on a Core 2 quad that runs FSX surprisingly well. I am thinking they will indeed improve the o'c headroom w/ a better TIM solution. I think they full well know, across the planet, there is plenty of demand to take the extra step and improve on this in order to allow for better headroom. I'm also guessing sales of IB to enthusiasts wasn't quite what they might have hoped for and so and easy step is to improve TIM to tease people off of SB.

Sucks to know we were being used as guinea pigs. haha

 

I think that almost always happens with any product. You can't avoid it.

Sucks to know we were being used as guinea pigs. haha

 

LOL

Good, but also socket 1150... I guess the Sabertooth I'm getting won't last more than 1.5 years in that case lol....

Good, but also socket 1150... I guess the Sabertooth I'm getting won't last more than 1.5 years in that case lol....

 

I think that part of the reason they change the pin count is for Mobo sales.

If they left the socket the same for many generations, the sales for Motherboard manufacturers would quickly start to drop off because people would not need to get new boards.

So now my question becomes, build an Ivy or wait for Haswell? Good problem to have, but... oy!

Wait. You don't have a bad computer.

So now my question becomes, build an Ivy or wait for Haswell? Good problem to have, but... oy!

 

You already have a decently powerful system. I would strongly recommend that you wait for Haswell.

Ben... you always say "strongly" :lol:

Ben... you always say "strongly" :lol:

 

Sry lol I guess it is just the way I naturally express myself in writing hehe :blush:

Thanks, guys. Until this thread, Haswell was pretty much an abstraction to me, but it sounds like the performance gains over Ivy might be significant. As for my current rig, it's quite good under most circumstances - still grinds down under 15 fps in heavy scenery or conditions - urban areas, complex add-on airports, heavy weather. So I'm looking forward to a next build that gets me up into the 20's in those situations, after appropriate tweaking, of course. I was also looking forward to moving to SSD - those long load times on HD can sometimes be a barrier to entry. But on the other hand, I'd like the next build to last for a while and I get the sense that if I build on Ivy now, I'm going to be dissatisfied when Haswell comes around. The alternative is to build now and rebuild on Haswell, which will make my budget unhappy. Final note for this round - if I can get a decent overclock out of Haswell without having to resort to razor blades, that'd be a plus. I'd be willing to try delidding an Ivy but I can't say I was really looking forward to it.

 

So... 980x @ 4.48 for now, next year in Haswell...