October 12, 201213 yr as you have already shown, but equally you must be prepared for others also to offer an alternative opinion. :smile: Exactly! I never wanted people that already have good tech to upgrade! BUT, for people who are in the pursuit to squeeze out more performance, I think that it is a worthy upgrade considering 25-40% increases are achievable in SGGS with Kepler.
October 12, 201213 yr 25-40% increases are achievable in SGGS with Kepler. :Shocked: ??? Come on Ben, you can't be serious... going from 25 frames to more than 30?? are you still talking about FSX? HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
October 12, 201213 yr :Shocked: ??? Come on Ben, you can't be serious... going from 25 frames to more than 30?? are you still talking about FSX? Look in the GPUMark thread. Look at my post on the first page of this topic! There is a chart and I explained the numbers!! The 660Ti alone is 22% faster in SGSS + clouds than the 580. The 680 is almost 50% faster than the 580 in SGSS + Clouds.
October 12, 201213 yr -The 680 does about 3,000GFLOPS. - Nearly twice that of the 580... I did my duty and substantiated my claims with credible evidence. Ok by your "evidence"... I upgrade my system from a GTX 580 to a GTX 680 and my fps will double?
October 12, 201213 yr Look in the GPUMark thread. Look at my post on the first page of this topic! There is a chart and I explained the numbers!! The 660Ti alone is 22% faster in SGSS + clouds than the 580. The 680 is almost 50% faster than the 580 in SGSS + Clouds. Mmmm... if that is the case, then I will have to put the 660Ti on my shopping list... because effectively that bludgeons my premise that there is little performance return between GPU models. Mmm, don't get me wrong, but that is one hell of a performance jump Ben, is there anyone else experiencing that kind of performance in FSX over a 580? HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
October 12, 201213 yr There is only one series of card for FSX today and its Nvedia 6xxx card... the rest of em are running in the 8th place. 8th? Where do you see 8th or lower Manny? is there anyone else experiencing that kind of performance in FSX over a 580? Let me drag Word Not Allowed into this... Word Not Allowed... did you not do some actual testing (yourself and / or with others) that demo'd the GTX 580 was roughly on par with the GTX 680? And the GFLOP reference is really irrelevant when you can't push the data across the bus. It was Phil Taylor that said the Bandwidth was one of the key metrics when determining... Plus... Ben... if you used FSXMark11 to draw your GFLOP chart (this is what you used?)... there is such a spread in hardware - that would make a chart meaningless... Or was the chart based on a single system? Mmmm... if that is the case, then I will have to put the 660Ti on my shopping list... I have a GTX 580 now... to prevent major heartbreak / heartburn after spending hundreds of $$$ looking for significant improvement, I'm waiting for the 780 (suppose'd specs... compared to the 680): The Bus Width will go back up from 256 to 384bit Mem Core clock up from 1000 to 1500MHz Mem Bandwidth up from 192 GB/s (which happens to be same same for GTX 580) to 300GB/s + Those are some of the things Phil Taylor said most important (along with total mem... but we're essentially "out of the woods" there) Even then I'm not sure it will be worth plunking down $500 or so...
October 12, 201213 yr Ok by your "evidence"... I upgrade my system from a GTX 580 to a GTX 680 and my fps will double? Keep in mind, these tests are in heavy clouds with Sparse Grid Super Sampling. The 660Ti alone is 22% faster in SGSS + clouds than the 580. The 680 is almost 50% faster than the 580 in SGSS + Clouds. I'm waiting for the 780 :Drooling: Plus... Ben... if you used FSXMark11 to draw your GFLOP chart (this is what you used?)... there is such a spread in hardware - that would make a chart meaningless... The test completely isolates the GPU... Different hardware would make little to no difference. Mmmm... if that is the case, then I will have to put the 660Ti on my shopping list... because effectively that bludgeons my premise that there is little performance return between GPU models. Mmm, don't get me wrong, but that is one hell of a performance jump Ben, is there anyone else experiencing that kind of performance in FSX over a 580? Yes, many others see these results too. The Kepler architecture is a monster with regards to SGSS+Clouds.
October 12, 201213 yr The test completely isolates the GPU... Ok I'm not clear... You are saying FSXMark11 completely isolates the GPU?
October 13, 201213 yr Well, it depends upon the use of the videocard. If you have a plane with a glass cockpit like the Flight1 G1000 series, the SGSS takes away the "shimmers" and the 600 series is better at that than the 500 series. If you are flying in clouds the 600 series is superior. I went from a 580 to a 670 and the Flight1 birds were smooth in Seattle for the first time. I was impressed enough to return the 670 that I got for a great price and shell out another $125 for a 680 which is even better. You need to be smart about this, though. If you can't afford it or you don't fly glass cockpits or you don't care about flying IMC then it surely is not wise to give up a 500 series for a 600. Kdub
October 13, 201213 yr You are saying FSXMark11 completely isolates the GPU? *GPUMARK* - It was created by Dazz to isolate the GPU in FSX.....
October 13, 201213 yr *GPUMARK* - It was created by Dazz to isolate the GPU in FSX..... Are you trying to say this is only for GPU? GPU? Is that what its for? GPU? :lol: I'm getting a 660ti within the next month or so. If I noticed earlier I could have got £38 saved on one as I spent that amount on Borderlands 2 for the PS3 and it comes bundled for free with the card. Doh!
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