November 2, 201213 yr A couple of months ago I posted about an issue I was having with the NGX and how, when changing views the view would, in a fraction of a second, flash or jump. It is a very odd issue which only showed itself with the NGX. I almost found a workaround by not using the 1/2 Vsync in inspector. I say almost, because the issue was still apparent but not as bad as when running with 1/2 Vsync. So I would fly all my other aircraft using 1/2 Vsync and then change to just standard Vsync in Inspector when flying the NGX. BUT, the issue was still very irritating and I could not find a way to solve it until yesterday. I came to the conclusion that the problem was somehow associated with Vsync (unsurprisingly) and so yesterday I decided to add the fullscreen Vsync value to the cfg. and set it to none in Inspector. VOILA! Yep, the jumping views had gone, no more, disappeared... except... I was experiencing some tearing. So now I don't know whether the Vsync in the cfg works and it has had the desired affect or it doesn't work, hence the tearing, and the jumping views have disappeared because there is no Vsync, a dilemma, and one I'd be interested in hearing about. Here's a vid of the original problem, best viewed at 720 http://youtu.be/OU3VkgvAUns HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 2, 201213 yr Author Here you go... BTW don't ask me about the TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=2800 I know it's weird, but it works! 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Latitude=1,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 Longitude=1,2 [PANELS] DEFAULT_VIEW=1 IMAGE_QUALITY=1 PANEL_MASKING=1 PANEL_OPACITY=100 PANEL_STRETCHING=1 QUICKTIPS=0 UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0 [sTARTUP] DEMO=0 LoadWindow=1 SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1 STARTUP_DEMO=0 [slewTextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 LockedFrameRate=1,2 [TERRAIN] SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2 TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=1800 TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=700 DETAIL_TEXTURE=1 MESH_COMPLEXITY=100 MESH_RESOLUTION=23 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29 WATER_EFFECTS=4 AUTOGEN_DENSITY=2 LOD_RADIUS=6.000000 [sCENERY] DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1 IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5 LENSFLARE=0 MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3 [FlightPlanMap] LineWidth=2 SHOW_AIRPORTS=1 SHOW_VORS=1 SHOW_NDBS=0 SHOW_APPROACHES=1 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=1 SHOW_VICTOR=0 SHOW_JET=0 SHOW_AIRSPACE=1 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 show_waypoints=1 show_airways=1 show_markers=1 show_volume_boundaries=1 show_ac_twr=1 [WeatherMap] SHOW_AIRPORTS=0 SHOW_VORS=0 SHOW_NDBS=0 SHOW_APPROACHES=0 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0 SHOW_VICTOR=0 SHOW_JET=0 SHOW_AIRSPACE=0 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 [RWW_WEATHER_MAP] SHOW_AIRPORTS=0 SHOW_VORS=0 SHOW_NDBS=0 SHOW_APPROACHES=0 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0 SHOW_VICTOR=0 SHOW_JET=0 SHOW_AIRSPACE=0 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 [bufferPools] RejectThreshold=98304 [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0.0] Mode=2560x1600x32 TriLinear=1 [MAPVIEW_MAP] SHOW_AIRPORTS=1 SHOW_VORS=1 SHOW_NDBS=1 SHOW_APPROACHES=1 SHOW_INTERSECTIONS=0 SHOW_VICTOR=0 SHOW_JET=0 SHOW_AIRSPACE=1 SHOW_FLIGHTPLAN=1 SHOW_WEATHERSTATIONS=1 SHOW_WEATHERSYSTEMS=1 SHOW_DATATAGS=1 SHOW_TERRAIN=1 show_flight_history=1 [MULTIPLAYER] condAccoutPassword=0 VoiceVolume=2.000000 HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 2, 201213 yr Hi Howard, I started noticing the flashing problem yesterday. I already had the ForceFullScreenVSync=1 tweak added to my FSX.cfg and my Inspector setting for VSync is "3D application controlled" and I have also tired "Force off." In both cases, my problem is still there. One suspicion I have is that I tried adding a second monitor, and then decided against it - I wonder if adding this extra display caused this behavior. Then again, perhaps it was always there and I didn't notice it until then. In any case - any suggestions? Thanks, Sam Kharey
November 2, 201213 yr Author Hi Sam, it's so strange that so many systems appear so similar yet are all so different. I would be very surprised of adding a second monitor had any affect. I'm at a loss to know what to suggest, apart from doing some more tests. It certainly appears to be something to do with the Vsync, it might also be exasperated by the GPU driver, who knows. I do however seem to remember being aware of it after updating my driver and using the 1/2 Vsync tweak. Let us know how you get on... HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 2, 201213 yr Moderator Howard, why do you have three [Display.Device.xxx] sections in your .cfg? You running three monitors? [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0] Mode=2560x1600x32 Anisotropic=1 [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.1] Mode=1024x768x32 [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580.0.0] Mode=2560x1600x32 TriLinear=1 I was always under the impression, one monitor, one setting for this. Maybe it doesn't make a difference though. Sean Campbell Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
November 2, 201213 yr Author Hi Sean, yep, I know. I have always been puzzled by this. I will delete the duplicate entry and then it is rebuilt on startup! As for number of monitors, I have two. One main @ 2560x1600 and another for instruments. I would love for someone to explain this for me! HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 2, 201213 yr Commercial Member Hi man, do you use Ezdok? Alex Alex Ridge Join Fswakevortex here! YOUTUBE and FACEBOOK
November 2, 201213 yr Woo, Bristol! My home airport! Sorry I can't help with your problem! But still...woo!
November 2, 201213 yr Author Hi man, do you use Ezdok? Alex Hi Alex, yes, I do... Woo, Bristol! My home airport! Where are you based Martin? HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 2, 201213 yr Commercial Member Hi Alex, yes, I do... Where are you based Martin? That's why then. It's an issue with ezdok. Alex Ridge Join Fswakevortex here! YOUTUBE and FACEBOOK
November 2, 201213 yr Author That's why then. It's an issue with ezdok. OK, but why only with the NGX? Do you experience the same? HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
November 2, 201213 yr Hi Howard, Same issue here and I do not use ezdoc. It looks like FSX renders the next view that is about to load, funny thing is I never noticed before. I checked and my FSX resolution is set to match the desktop and I do not use the affinitymask setting in the .cfg as the newer processors do not benefit from the edit. I guess it is something that we have to learn to live with. Alex, if you are not experiencing the issue and you are not using ezdoc it could be something in your settings, here are my edits that I got from NickN, I use the second set of bufferpools and Word Not Allowed's NI setting of Vertical Sync Tear Control set to Standard and 1/2 Refresh Rate: [bufferPools] PoolSize=0 //RejectThreshold=98304 //Use this if you are running Water Effects: High 2.x //Extra shader pass, which drains system or [bUFFERPOOLS] UsePools=1 Poolsize=8388608 RejectThreshold=262144 //Water effects: Low 2.x //Easy on the system [GRAPHICS] HIGHMEMFIX=1 ForceFullScreenVSync=1 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096 //1024 is the default [Display] UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30 WideViewAspect=True //ForceFullScreenVSync=True ForceVSync=True [Main] HideInfoText=1 DisablePreload=1 FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.20 [TERRAIN] LOD_RADIUS=6.500000 MESH_COMPLEXITY=100 MESH_RESOLUTION=22 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29 AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5 //this is sometimes reduced to 4 over exceptionally large autogen scenery //but no lower //TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=2000 //TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=1700 //TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=4500 //TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=3000 //TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=800 //TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=700 [TrafficManager] AirlineDensity=100 GADensity=100 //NOTE I USE ULTIMATE TRAFFIC 80AL/80GA WHICH CONTROLS THESE OTHERWISE THEY //WOULD BE SET TO: //AirlineDensity=60 //GADensity=50 Add this to FSUIPC.ini [JoyNames] AutoAssignLetters=Yes //This will track USB Contollers and there will be no need to reassign //each time. \Robert Hamlich/
November 2, 201213 yr Author I'm in St. George mate, yourself? The other side of EGGD, down in N Somerset. HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
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