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What's missing from this 77W flight deck?

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Weather radar?

 

 

 

 

 

lol

 

Its on and there are some precipitation returns.

Alex Jevdic KORD/KHOT/KPWK

A<380 love at first flight

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Wow—the gear handle knob looks quite plasticky!

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Weather radar?

 

 

 

 

 

lol

 

That's on - Emirates don't have Range Arks on their ND's, I know BA don't either.

 

I notice their weather radar has tilt angle instead of Flight Level, is that a customer option or are both options available on all 777, as in can the pilot select one or the other?

 

No you can do some different modes in the settings on the Pedestal.

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- Luke Pabari

I notice their weather radar has tilt angle instead of Flight Level, is that a customer option or are both options available on all 777, as in can the pilot select one or the other?

No, when you have WXR selected on the EFIS control panel and it's turned on with the panel on the pedestal, you will have always a tilt angle displayed there. You are confused becasue when you have selected TERR, you will have altitudes there indicating the levels of the terrain displayed. You can't have both TERR and WXR on at th same time as they would obviously conflict with similar symbolism and colour displaying. Due to them not being able to be on at the same time, indications of the respective systems are indicated on the same place on the ND.

Regards,
James White

 

Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
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Thanks for your answers,

James, i have seen in Air Canada's 777 videos where the pilot was able to display weather at a flight level, instead of using the tilt angle. Here is the video at time 4:00 you can see the weather radar is in manual mode and below that the flight level

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_llyS20J0Ac#t=242s

Bryan Richards

 

"People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.

Thanks for your answers,

James, i have seen in Air Canada's 777 videos where the pilot was able to display weather at a flight level, instead of using the tilt angle. Here is the video at time 4:00 you can see the weather radar is in manual mode and below that the flight level

 

http://www.youtube.c...yS20J0Ac#t=242s

Cheers Bryan, I have never seen that before.

 

Looking at pictures on airliners.net (is that a forbidden word around here :P), ACA's birds seem to have a different weather radar compared to the one I am used to (the Collins WXR-2100). Therefore they have different options on the respective WXR control panels. I will try and ask a friend I know who is involved with ACA what the go is with the altitude and the weather radar. However I believe most operators have the WXR-2100 which has no altitude option.

 

However I know the VAR being displayed under the 31o has something to do with the gain not being set at CAL (the default setting).

Regards,
James White

 

Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
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Okay after doing a bit of research it appears the weather radar system in use on the Air Canada birds is the Honeywell IntuVue system. In the case on the 777-200LR, it is utilising the Honeywell RDR4000 model, different to the Collins WXR-2100 shown in the Emirates cockpit in the original post.

 

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As you can see in this picture (which I have ripped from the RDR4000 operating manual) there is a knob in which you can select the altitude. In this case they have chosen the next available level below them (31o).

 

Therefore, technically it is an airline option wether they want the conventional Collins WXR-2100 or the more expensive Honeywell system (which is 3D capable - and I assume more useful on an aircraft which has a vertical profile display [as in the A380 or Embraer Jet]). After some reasearch I believe other airlines such as Singapore and Turkish also carry the same option as Air Canada.

 

Hope this helps.

Regards,
James White

 

Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
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Thanks for that James. The honeywell one certainly looks nicer, and being able to use flight level certainly seems more straightforward than using a tilt angle.

Bryan Richards

 

"People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.

How about extra fuel...6.7. Unless that is KG...would make it 14.7 on the LBS which is closer to right.

 

It is in Kg. I'm pretty sure it is the standard measure of weight for aviation except in a few places like the US.

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"If you can't solve and equation with calculus, you're not using enough calculus" - A wise friend

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VOR needle visible even though no VOR L or R is selected on the ND.

 

No, Jonny had VOR1/2 both on establishing "XXX" on his ND - just it had no DME. Look at the bottom left and right.

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- Luke Pabari

No, Jonny had VOR1/2 both on establishing "XXX" on his ND - just it had no DME. Look at the bottom left and right.

So XXX is the name of the VOR....I thought it meant no VOR selectedHe%20He.gif

Kind regards
R.G

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So XXX is the name of the VOR....I thought it meant no VOR selectedHe%20He.gif

 

No I don't believe so - if none were available to tuned then it would look like: VOR R

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DME ----

 

The 777 picks up VORs Automatically, or you can tune them & ADF's manually in the NavRad page in the FMC. One thing I hate about the NGX is how you have to tune them all manually.

 

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Another awesome 777 video!

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- Luke Pabari

 

So XXX is the name of the VOR....I thought it meant no VOR selectedHe%20He.gif

 

I think I can just about make out XXX on the ND right by the 80 range mark. Seems an odd ID for a VOR though

Alaister Kay

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