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The Dreaded Jagged Edges - Again!

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Bryan, your Antialiasing is not kicking in.. agree with above suggestion.

 

Bert, this is also something I thought about. My settings replicate yours....so the question is why is my antialiasing not "kicking in" on the 40 screen? My 22" Multsync, Samsung (same as yours I think) is working perfectly. I just feel like there is some setting somewhere that I need to "switch" on.

 

If I drag my FSX from the 22" to the 40" it goes from smooth to the jaggeds. What I don't understand is that I had this working perfectly with the other 40" screen I was using. I replaced that screen with this one because the other is dedicated to my RV and my kids bought me this new one for Christmas. Only difference is LED vs LCD...all other features are identical.

 

I think 1920 at 1050 resolution is also not enough for a 40 inch screen.

 

OK that's a fair concern, but as I noted above I had this working on another identical resolution 40" screen. I wonder if there are some others out there that have larger screens that have found the trick to this. Both screens are 1080p HD and I can show HD photos at unbelievably shape resolution or course.

 

Another thing I tried was switching which monitor was #1 identity IE main display...this also made no difference.

 

If I drag my FSX between screens, on the 22" its perfect, on the 40" it refreshes and I am back to jagged lines.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

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OK another update....I tried changing the display screen resolution of monitor #1 and #2 to "extend these displays" and I could get a perfect display on my second larger monitor, which suggests Bert's comment regarding anti aliasing is likely correct. However, as soon as I change to full screen or back to windowed mode I immediately loose the settings.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

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If I duplicate the displays thru the control panel I can get perfect display on both screens.

 

So the issues I need help with is how do I activate Inspector or the Nvidia control panel setting so that they reflect those settings on both screens and keep each screen identity as separate monitors. I'm missing something important here.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

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Not that anyone might actually care, I have found a work around this problem - it isn't pretty but it works.

 

So I boot up with the two monitors. Fire up FSX. Anti aliasing working perfectly.

 

Move my FSX to the large 40" monitor (loose my anti aliasing and get jagged edges).

 

I then open up Control Panel>Display>Adjust Resolution....and I click on "Show only desktop (which then replicated my primary desktop onto my larger monitor and everything in FSX is perfect ie anti aliasing is on and no jagged edges....then, I click on "Extend these Displays" and my displays switch back to the master on my small screen with FSX on the larger monitor.

 

In this way my second larger 40" screen keeps the Inspector setting and anti aliasing and I can run secondary programs like Plan-G on my smaller second monitor.

 

It works, its awkward but it's the only way I know to get this to work correctly.

 

thanks.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

Not that anyone might actually care, I have found a work around this problem - it isn't pretty but it works.

 

It works, its awkward but it's the only way I know to get this to work correctly.

 

thanks.

 

Hey - you are back to flying (I hope)!!

Bert

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Bert I think I need a crying towel or a case of Hermann's Bavarian Ale. Most challenges I can work my way though. But this one is plaguing me.

 

Even my work around is temperamental. I had to uninstall the new drivers as I keep getting graphic display corruption. Back to my trusty 296.10 version...works great no issues. Also the new 310.90 version would not allow me to turn on 3D if I wanted to do that.

 

No doubt its anti aliasing but how to get it to project onto my new 40" monitor is beyond me.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

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Bryan have you seen this utility might help not sure- its called "ultramon"

 

 

http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/

 

Nope never heard of it. I see it has a trial mode for 30 days. So I will take a look and see if this is useful to sort out this issue. Thanks.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

Jagged edges are caused by aliasing (in technical jargon, high spatial frequencies masked as low frequencies), and can be partially cured by "smoothing" out the edges by varous means. However if you are viewing on a screen that is not run by your graphics card such as a TV monitor, if the monitor does not have the same resolution as your card setting, unless the TV itself has settings to smooth out jaggies, what goes out from your computer is what goes into the TV. Did you try lowering the resolution setting before the images are sent to the TV?

 

Again speaking technically, the only way to avoid aliasing is to have a system with twice the resolution that one is actually using, but very few people are willing to sacrifice half the resolution to avoid artifacts like jaggies.

 

Henri

Henri Arsenault

With all due respect, that is exactly what the antialiasing capabilities of the video card are for :rolleyes:

 

..and I do believe the TV is fed from the video card, in this instance..

Bert

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I just tried out this little utility recommended by Rich.

 

It's kinda fun tool, like the ability to switch applications from one screen to the other and stretch over two monitors etc.

 

I found that I could get the results I was looking for, more or less like before, first I have to start up FSX on the small 22" computer monitor, then maximize to full screen (not full window), then use the utility to port it over to the other screen and then I get or retain the anti aliasing of my original screen ported over to the TV monitor.

 

If however, on the TV monitor I mess with any change in FSX window, IE minimize, then maximize....or, go to full screen then back to windowed mode, I loose the anti aliasing and get the jaggies back (loose the anti aliasing).

 

What's interesting is that I can get a very good resolution picture on the 40" TV monitor without jaggies so that shows that the monitor is capable of retaining anti aliasing. Why I loose it as soon as I manipulated it I have no idea.

 

With all due respect, that is exactly what the antialiasing capabilities of the video card are for :rolleyes:

 

..and I do believe the TV is fed from the video card, in this instance..

 

Yes Bert, that is correct and as I have already said, I CAN get a perfect display by doing some "hokey jiggery" but as soon as I make any change in size of the display on the larger TV monitor I loose the anti aliasing.

 

Jagged edges are caused by aliasing (in technical jargon, high spatial frequencies masked as low frequencies), and can be partially cured by "smoothing" out the edges by varous means. However if you are viewing on a screen that is not run by your graphics card such as a TV monitor, if the monitor does not have the same resolution as your card setting, unless the TV itself has settings to smooth out jaggies, what goes out from your computer is what goes into the TV. Did you try lowering the resolution setting before the images are sent to the TV?

 

Again speaking technically, the only way to avoid aliasing is to have a system with twice the resolution that one is actually using, but very few people are willing to sacrifice half the resolution to avoid artifacts like jaggies.

 

Henri

 

Yes very familiar with anti aliasing. Perhaps there is an impact of differing resolution maximums for each monitor however, I did an experiement to line up each with identical resolutions and it did not make a difference.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

Bryan has something to do with the tv not putting my finger on it but has to be. Are you converting dvi to vga ?

Rich Sennett

               

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Could be right.....this TV is an LED...I've never had an LED before. The other I have is and LCD. I will have to go and get that other one and hook it up and see if I can get the results I am looking for.

 

The only reason I am using this LED new one is that the other is dedicated (special wall bracket and location of input/outputs that suit my 5th Wheel RV.) to my RV when I am on the road.

 

The kids saw how much I enjoyed the bigger monitor for flying so this is the new Christmas gift.

Bryan Wallis aka "fltsimguy"

Maple Bay, British Columbia

Near CAM3

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