January 18, 201313 yr Well I brought a new computer for myself at Xmas. My previous one was not chop liver either. at 3.7 with a 580GTX 256 SDD and 6 gig of ram with being inside 2 years old. However, I have a nice simpit and was ###### that I still couldnt run all the eye candy I wanted. So I brought this: 7-3820 OC 4.7 | ASUS P9X79 LE MoBo | 16GB DDR3/2133MHz Corsair Vengeance | EVGA Superclocked - Signature 2 Edition GTX 680 2GB | 480 GB Intel 520 Series SSD | 850 watt Thermaltake Toughpower | Window7 64 Pro | Liquid Cooling Kit 360MM w/ Triple Fan powered by Koolance | Azza Fusion 3000 Full-Tower Gaming Case When I got it my hopes were that I finally would have the hardware to run FSX the way I wanted. I was able to tune FSX/DX9 to run nicely but then I go to FSDT CYVR and suffer the OOM issues. Thanks to Peter Dawson it doesnt crash the sim but lack of texture load and the window prompt nosie in the background let me know I had hit a wall. So let try DX10 preview. Paul has created a very easy to follow with the reasons and benefits or compromises list of what DX10 currently is and how to set it up. I followed it and got further than I ever had with some promising results. One thing about my set up is that I have a VRInsigt GPS which is another screen so was a bit concerned at multi screen in FSX/DX10. Well I found my sweetspot in FSX.cfg settings and nVidia Inspector settings thanks to many other poster who have posted what works best for them. I was getting the frames I seeked but was seeing micro stutters. A real deal breaker for me when I was getting almost solid 30 frames at maxed settings and at a HD airport. Long story short, it ended up being not the second monitor but what seems to be the VRInsigt software that runs the second screen and its hardware for the buttons and knobs. I got my computer on Xmas eve and spend about two days installing most of my software. Since then I have been doing test flight after test flight to try and find my nirvana setting. I got close in DX9 but still had some issues that had me feeling like I had wasted my money. Trying DX10 and more test flights ( I've must of made close to 50 flights from Orbx S43 to W16 in the past few days) in the most demand area to try and find what works best settings wise and what is causing issues, has finally lead to the holy grail of the right settings and the best sim I could of hoped for. I give a lot of thanks to Steve who has brought DX10 into the light and Paul for collecting and distributing a wealth of knowledge for us who dare to try DX10. The end results are being able to run all the eye candy I need including 100% AI commercial traffic, Maxed auto gen, Weather set at max coverage and distance in Orbx land with all the addon fields, HD textures at 4096, the benefits of all the great things DX10 preview offers and still maintain a smooth flight with frames staying almost pegged at 30 with lower at the most demanding areas. SAetting I can set and forget, no more tweaking, no more I need to turn down this setting to fly in this area...a universal sim loaded and running smooth. It does come with some compromises. Night flying at certain fields are immersion killers and having that beautiful RealAir Lancair with its amazing night lighting and landing lights is a draw back. So AI that I wanted to use (ie Orbx NA) wont be seen as designed. There are going to be some places or airplanes that arent DX10 preview coded but from what I can tell, most are, Steve is still working at making DX10 better and more users are thinking about or becoming DX10 flyers. So the pros far out weight the cons and the best part is I am so happy. So a big thanks to all in this forum who have played a big part in making me a happy simmer. It means a lot. N. Palmer aka Kilstorm McBride i9-13900K O/C | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY | RTX 4090 24GB | 2x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 990 PRO) 1x SSD (4TB Samsung 870 EVO) | Windows 11 Home | H20: HydroLux PRO:HardLine Tubing| 1000w PSU | Starlink WiFi
January 18, 201313 yr Congrats, and I to have found peace with FSX DX10, would never go back to DX9, even if some of my nice addons (airports) don't work properly. Perhaps some day they will. :smile: Gigabyte z590 UD - i5 11600k 4.9 GHz - 64gb 3600 MHz ram - RTX 3070 ti - multiple ssd - 34" 3440x1440 100 Hz Curved - Saitek Yoke Pedals Throttle Quadrant x2 - TM T16000m x2 Throttle - Win 11 Pro
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January 18, 201313 yr I got P3D and want to DX-10 it before trying it on FSX. DX-10 appears very promising via the positive feedback from those who converted from DX-9. When I get some free time going to give it an honest go.
January 18, 201313 yr Unfortunate but DX10 doesn't not work in P3D. The choice is one or the other. I chose FSX and DX10, and will re evaluate when P3D 2.0 comes out.
January 18, 201313 yr DX10 makes fsx a new sim! AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
January 18, 201313 yr +1 here. The use of extra Vram that dx10 uses is a real plus CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
January 18, 201313 yr Author Will it increase FPS? I may give it a shot Switching to DX10 was not about increasing frames for me and many have said that there should be no frame increase. If you see any its a bonus. The benefits of DX10 are a more smooth and stable sim with more headroom in ram for more demanding addons. Visuals are better in how DX10 compared to DX9 works in some areas. Another benefit is how it handles auto-gen as it doesnt pop in as much (havent done a lot of flights yet but noticed that in the few I have) I was getting about the same frames in DX9 but suffering some texture blurries that I didnt like, OOM at FSDT CYVR and still some micro stutters (that might be from the VRInsight app running which I never tested in DX9 and discover in DX10) which once again results in what feels and looks like a smoother sim. I didnt make the switch to DX10 on my first try at using it however, in the How To Doc that Paul has wrote, I was easily able to save my setting is both DX9 and DX10 to easily and effortless go between them with just a few files being switched. I gave DX10 a serious look 3 different times before finally deciding I would be most happy with it over DX9. So my only advice is keep an open mind about it and treat it differently than FSX/DX9 and you will have a better understanding how they compare for what you seek in your end results. i9-13900K O/C | ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY | RTX 4090 24GB | 2x SSD M.2 (2TB Samsung 990 PRO) 1x SSD (4TB Samsung 870 EVO) | Windows 11 Home | H20: HydroLux PRO:HardLine Tubing| 1000w PSU | Starlink WiFi
January 18, 201313 yr I had reported seeing increases of 10fps, and I did in some static testing I was doing. Why I was seeing that difference between the two I don't know. Having used it a little more, I see more modest increases, but there is an increase, but not 10 across the board. Like what was stated above, it's clearer, no blurries to speak of, I have zero stutters, never have had an OOM (in 9 or 10), far less autogen pop, overall a much nicer experience. It just looks and performs better. Only downfall for me is the lack of lighting at night at some of my addon airports. Really a shame, they look great during the day. Gigabyte z590 UD - i5 11600k 4.9 GHz - 64gb 3600 MHz ram - RTX 3070 ti - multiple ssd - 34" 3440x1440 100 Hz Curved - Saitek Yoke Pedals Throttle Quadrant x2 - TM T16000m x2 Throttle - Win 11 Pro
January 18, 201313 yr There may be a fix on its way for some of those problems, Mukoka. I included Phil Taylor's Blog on Acceleration/SP2 in the "How-To" doc, and it describes the bemefits which DX10 brings - one of them being that DX10 can hold a heavier graphics load for the same or better frame rate than in DX9. Also DX10 doesn't share the gpu memory with the OS, which further adds to the smoothness and contributes to offsetting OOM's. Life is good! B) All the Best, i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
January 18, 201313 yr Great Paul. The only issue I have right now with DX10 is the night lighting at addon airports, the rest is fantastic. Won't ever be going back to DX9. ^_^ Glen Gigabyte z590 UD - i5 11600k 4.9 GHz - 64gb 3600 MHz ram - RTX 3070 ti - multiple ssd - 34" 3440x1440 100 Hz Curved - Saitek Yoke Pedals Throttle Quadrant x2 - TM T16000m x2 Throttle - Win 11 Pro
January 18, 201313 yr I think if there is FPS increase relative to dx9 its because the area your in is dx10 coded and optimized. I think. That would make sense CYVR LSZH I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS z690 ROG STRIX Gaming RTX 4080 Super,
January 18, 201313 yr Could very well be. I'll add, even for a given area, if the fps aren't greater (there certainly not less), the visuals (clarity) are superior, smoothness in flight (no stutters) is a plus, and the overall feel while flying is much better in DX10 than they ever was in DX9. And, the fps stay pegged on 30 in 95% of the situations I fly in. Couldn't say that about DX9. Gigabyte z590 UD - i5 11600k 4.9 GHz - 64gb 3600 MHz ram - RTX 3070 ti - multiple ssd - 34" 3440x1440 100 Hz Curved - Saitek Yoke Pedals Throttle Quadrant x2 - TM T16000m x2 Throttle - Win 11 Pro
January 18, 201313 yr Good morning to all the DX10 simmers and all that have broought FSX / DX10 to the point that i is today. i now have a balanced system that runs DX10 at 28 / 29.9 FPS and this is mainly from the help of two simmer Steve Parsons for the tweaks (that works very well!!) and Paul J for giving us the information as it come to him. I have a lot to learn and with these people on board DX10 and simming is going to be a simmers delight! Ths one thing that i have learned is to have a balanced system. Take a look at my computer specs and some might and will say that I have over kill on my system. It runs well with all of my scenery packs and planes. Now with planes my PMDG FPS will drop to 25 to 26 but without any stutters and the grapics are great :yahoo: Now to fix the PMDG issues all I have to do is play with the bufferpool and tweak it to bring the FPS up. So when you put a system togeather for FSX always keep in mind BALANCE BALANCE BALANCE your system. I took the advise on what was needed to build my rig and added one other item which was the the two SLI Nvidea 580 / 3GBvideo ram on each card and very fast ram I can now run (3) 27" monitors without useing a Tripple Head 2 Go. Life is great but in my case it wouldn't have been so great with out the help that I have receoved from this forum and the great people that stay up all hours to being this sport to the point that we see it today. My :hi: is off to these fine gentlmen!! Thank you and i will always be greatfull to you all :yahoo: Les H Mavrick11 lh
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