They certainly had an effect. I hear what your saying and agree with you. <br /><br />What I was trying to say was that the objectives of the Crusades was different then modern day issues. As in, it's not about converting people anymore. A lot of the issues stem from the Crusades long ago though for sure. <br /><br />We just misunderstood each other. I think I added your post to somebody else's in my head while I was replying. <br /><br />There were also more tensions created when Jewish immigration to Palestine increased when it was under British mandate. Then of course Israel got independence in 1948.

I just don't understand why Muslims,Christians and, Jewish faiths just cant put differences aside and realise fighting each other isn't going to spread their respective religions I'm a Christian but I see the crusades as wrong and as the cause of all of the current issues in the Middle East.

 

Religious Extremism on all sides is wrong.  The current issues in the Middle East are caused by Muslim and Jew alike, and sometimes Christians, when they invoke an "eye for an eye" mentality.  Somehow that part of the Bible that's made up of what ******* truly preached gets forgotten...The idea of making peace with our enemies, and learning to forgive.  And I am sure Islam and Judaism have paths to salvation, but they get muddied by people who think they can play God and take lives out of their own beliefs.  I am not here to preach--I think I'm not a good enough person to do that.  But I feel it important to say that all parties need to lay down the sword.  Question is, who is good enough to be the first?

 

John

It's hard to forgive and lay down your sword when your neighboring countries are waiting to destroy you....<br /><br />I agree that would be the best outcome though

I had no problem entering Israel in 2011 even with stamps of several arab states. I was in Jordan two weeks before Israel and before in UAE, Lebanon, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia. Was screened for questionning by a couple of immigration officials but nothing more than that.<br /><br />I was however requesting that Israel stamp be put on a separate sheet of paper inserted temporary in my passport so I can later remove it to return to arab states. Quite usual for them as they asked no question about my request.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

You guys just can't take a hint and leave the forbidden topics out of the thread, eh? This topic will be locked because of your insistence on bringing up controversial and verbotten issues...

The aim of this topic was simply the enquiry of new flights being planned. I think they must have been shelved and everything hush hush. Diplomatic relations can be quite bumpy, especially since Israel just had an election.

God bless israel

 

god must be crazy

The aim of this topic was simply the enquiry of new flights being planned. I think they must have been shelved and everything hush hush. Diplomatic relations can be quite bumpy, especially since Israel just had an election.

Indeed, I think that was just a rumour, I'd be very surprised it it weren't.

 

Regards,

Ró.

Syria is not a destination at this point but hopefully that will change. Dimascus has a lot of history and a great country to tour.

+1. I grew up there and I cant wait to go back... Damascus is such a beautiful city that is rich in history. Unfortunately, many of my Syrian freinds are predicting that it will be 10+ years before things get back to normal.

This is an interesting thread. When Qantas and Emirates announced their proposed partnership, one of the issues raised was the issue of Israelis passing through Dubai on their way to Israel from Australia. There is a reasonably large number of Jews living in Melbourne who frequently travel to Israel and so it was an issue for that community, as they wanted to fly Qantas. When the question was put to Qantas about Israeli/Jews passing through Dubai the response was that they have checked and their would not be a problem. I wonder if the suggested Emirates route is in response to this market.

 

Craig

Yeah Damascus does look beautiful. It's one the oldest cities in the world isnt it? <br />With emirates and qantas, it would be emirates planes right? Or qantas?

i live and have a buisness in Tel-Aviv, and i had quite few customers that were traveling the midle-east, and had no problem(as i recall) getting in to Israel with those stamps.

about the rest of this conversation, for me it is interesting reading here your perspective

i live and have a buisness in Tel-Aviv, and i had quite few customers that were traveling the midle-east, and had no problem(as i recall) getting in to Israel with those stamps.

about the rest of this conversation, for me it is interesting reading here your perspective

 

Are there any Middle Eastern countries that allow travelers to enter with a stamp from Israel? 

 

Regards,

 

John

Are there any Middle Eastern countries that allow travelers to enter with a stamp from Israel? 

 

Regards,

 

John

sure. i've been twice to Jordan and numeus time to Egypt, but thats because we have peace agriment with them.

Are there any Middle Eastern countries that allow travelers to enter with a stamp from Israel? 

 

Regards,

 

John

As far as I'm aware it's not a problem entering the UAE with a stamp from Israel, it's only the other way that caused the issues. Of course all this was back in 2007/2008 though, I haven't concerned myself with it much since then as we stopped operating into the UAE in March of 2008, I haven't kept myself up to date with the diplomacy of the region much since.

 

Regards,

Ró.