April 22, 201313 yr I known this is a pictue in the -300 but I have seen them on the NG's Weston Hall
April 22, 201313 yr I cant quite make out whats going on there Bryan Richards "People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.
April 22, 201313 yr I known this is a pictue in the -300 but I have seen them on the NG's Looks nice, but what's your question, exactly?
April 22, 201313 yr Looks like a HUD that doesnt know where it is.. I.E the IRS's arnt aligned...mabe? Regards Luke M
April 22, 201313 yr Author in a future update could we have an option between this hud and the other one? Weston Hall
April 22, 201313 yr I'm just surprised that the airline bothered with updating an old 737 with a HUD/HGS?? PS: even if this particular carrier/airline purchased this 737 with the HUD/HGS already installed, whoever originally installed it....surprising indeed. Rgds, Ryzen 9 9950X3D @ 5.6Ghz + Corsair Nautilus Water Cooler - 64Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz - ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16Gb - Samsung G9 Odyssey 49 inch 5120x1440 Monitor - ASUS Crosshair X870E - Win 11 Pro - MSFS 2020 - 3 x NVMe M.2 1Tb - Fractal North XL Case "Tertia Optio, Latebra Factum" Steve Summers
April 22, 201313 yr Commercial Member in a future update could we have an option between this hud and the other one? My guess would be no. It's not a huge difference anyway, and is this model even available for the NGs? Kyle Rodgers
April 22, 201313 yr With a few exceptions, at SWA, all our aircraft are HUD equipped (300, 500, 700 and 800's). We do hand flown hgs approaches to cat III mins with the HUD. No auto land for us.
April 22, 201313 yr Btw, what you are looking at is the Rockwell Collins HGS 2300. That is the model we use on the 300/500. The 700 uses the 2350 (same as the 2300) or the 4000 series just like the 800, which is a newer version with a better display and includes rollout info. Pmdg has done a awesome job of replicating it, remember to set all the parameters on the hgs panel.
April 22, 201313 yr Author My guess would be no. It's not a huge difference anyway, and is this model even available for the NGs? With a few exceptions, at SWA, all our aircraft are HUD equipped (300, 500, 700 and 800's). We do hand flown hgs approaches to cat III mins with the HUD. No auto land for us. Btw, what you are looking at is the Rockwell Collins HGS 2300. That is the model we use on the 300/500. The 700 uses the 2350 (same as the 2300) or the 4000 series just like the 800, which is a newer version with a better display and includes rollout info. Pmdg has done a awesome job of replicating it, remember to set all the parameters on the hgs panel. My guess would be no. It's not a huge difference anyway, and is this model even available for the NGs? My dad works for SWA and he says that those and mostly common in the -700,-300,-500. I don't think it would be that hard to add just use the same programming as the normal one Weston Hall
April 23, 201313 yr I'm just surprised that the airline bothered with updating an old 737 with a HUD/HGS?? I think SWA went to HGS in about 1999 or so..?? But I'd have to double check that.. Many of those classics were not quite as old then.. Many are just now being replaced with NG's. So they got a good number of years out of them after being fitted with HGS. I think it's kinda like the two different MCP's used on the NG's. I bet most of the older NG's using the 2350 also have the older Honeywell MCP. All the new planes use the newer Collins MCP, and the newer HGS 4000. I don't know if the two changes were around the same time frame though. I guess like the two MCP options with the NGX, the two different HGS styles would be a valid option if one wanted to be totally correct as far as simulating a certain age of NG. But it's not one I would lose sleep over if PMDG didn't add the older HGS 2350 as an option. I'd still probably use the present HGS 4000 in my 700, as I have it rigged as a newer plane with the Collins MCP, etc.. And naturally the 800 being all new planes, use the 4000.. So I'm good as far as my SWA planes.. I have my private 600 rigged as an older plane, so I guess the 2350 would be the most accurate option, but I have no trouble living with the more advanced 4000 in that plane, even if not totally correct for it's age. The functions I use are pretty much the same with either one. About the only thing I would notice is the different shape of the combiner. Mark Keith
April 23, 201313 yr is that a -300 or a -200 though? Bryan Richards "People depend so much on automation that they forget how to get the automation to work." B.W.
April 23, 201313 yr Commercial Member In any case, I don't see why PMDG would come back and design a different VC just to include a HUD that looks vaguely different at best. A HUD is a HUD. The fact that one collimator has edges and one is ovoid is getting a little too finely detailed. You should be looking through it, anyway... Kyle Rodgers
April 23, 201313 yr I don't think it would really be worth the trouble. I don't think they ever used the HGS on the 200's. And they have been gone a good while. That image above would be a 300 or a 500. Probably a 300, being as there are a lot more of those than the 500's. A lot of the old classics are gradually being replaced by NG's. I've taken pictures of some at KHOU not too far back, and some of those have already been retired since I took them. This was the very first SWA 737-300. I took this in 2010 going into Hobby on 12R. It's since been retired and sits at some aircraft museum in Dallas. Mark Keith
April 23, 201313 yr This is ridiculous topic, same as "we want 777-200ER" one .The fact is NGX HUD is newer, better, and can do all of the things as 2300 can, and even more. It's like asking your car dealer why there is no audio cassette player option for brand new BMW. [color=#a9a9a9][size=1][size=4][img]http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_images/flags/rs.png[/img][/size] Lj. Prodanovic[/size][/color]
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