July 23, 201312 yr Moderator I think he's talking about the older c206 from carenado, but your right CT206H which was just released only has wheels. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta My bad there; I wasn't aware that the FSX version from Carenado was wheels only. I wonder why Carenado did that?
July 23, 201312 yr In my mind I just can't equate "Bush Plane" with "Glass Cockpit"!! ^_^ He should have just asked for GA float plane recommendations and not bush plane if he's looking for a glass cockpit. Mike Mann
July 23, 201312 yr My bad there; I wasn't aware that the FSX version from Carenado was wheels only. I wonder why Carenado did that? Yeah, its wierd to me too. My best guess is that they'll do float expansion like with the C172N you can buy floats as an expansion. Would've been cool to get all versions with initial purchase tho. <_<
July 23, 201312 yr He should have just asked for GA float plane recommendations and not bush plane if he's looking for a glass cockpit. On the contrary, that's exactly what the Kodiak is designed to be. I believe it's unique in that category, however.
July 23, 201312 yr He should have just asked for GA float plane recommendations and not bush plane if he's looking for a glass cockpit. Is there a distinction between float plane and bush planes? Is there a plane out there that has floats attached to it that isn't intended for back country use? Maybe this one... regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
July 23, 201312 yr The only thing that could have made that better were if the floats were A330 fuselages. :lol:
July 23, 201312 yr Moderator Is there a distinction between float plane and bush planes? Is there a plane out there that has floats attached to it that isn't intended for back country use? Maybe this one... 380_bush plane_aphib.jpg regards, Joe I sure hope he's shooting for the runway... if he's approaching water, it's gonna be ugly! The difference isn't in the airplane itself; just the amenities. Glass cockpits aren't usually found on bush planes due to reliability and cost, as compared to 'on airport' airplanes. Yeah, its weird to me too. My best guess is that they'll do float expansion like with the C172N you can buy floats as an expansion. Would've been cool to get all versions with initial purchase tho. <_< Interesting you mention Carenado's C-172; it seems they put the float and ski versions (FS 9) on sale all the time. Also if you think about it, in the RW the 172 wouldn't make a very good float plane, unless you were single and only had a dog, cat, or goldfish you took with you on XC trips... with floats you have no load capacity! Now, a 172 on wheels as a backcountry plane... that's another story.
July 23, 201312 yr I guess with a price of 1.5 million dollars, I just don't see the Quest Kodiak with the Wipline 7000 Amphibious Float package as being a bush plane. Mike Mann
July 23, 201312 yr I guess with a price of 1.5 million dollars, I just don't see the Quest Kodiak with the Wipline 7000 Amphibious Float package as being a bush plane. Hmm, interesting point of view that is worth some discussion. What is bush plane? It is true, that in IRL many bush planes are quite old or at least "simple" aircraft and they get awfully lot of flying hours, perhaps compared to maintenance and care at least, and get flown in harsh conditions as long as they serve their purposes and have certain qualities that are required to their environment. Like some many Cessnas, Cubs, Beavers and even DC-3s and C-46s flown in Alaska and PNW. To me bush planes are planes that are designed to operate on such conditions and have capability to use short and poor condition airfields both for take off and landing. In that sense Kodiak, for example, is just that and just modern derivative of those older and simpler aircraft made in the past: rugged work work horse, though pricy one.
July 23, 201312 yr How about this one- http://www.vikingair.com/content.aspx?id=270 Click on the 3rd picture from the bottom. This would be well north of $1M and carry more than the Kodiak. regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
July 23, 201312 yr Defining "what is a bush plane" is like trying to differentiate between a trailer park, mobile home park and a modular home park (usually determined by the real estate agent involved). Mike Mann
July 24, 201312 yr I guess with a price of 1.5 million dollars, I just don't see the Quest Kodiak with the Wipline 7000 Amphibious Float package as being a bush plane. While a lot of aircraft have been discovered to be great bush planes during their life-spans, or adapated to the purpose, the Kodiak was specifically designed for that role. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QBEVFz__zuY OK, those aren't float operations, but it's hard to watch that and say it's not really a bush plane simply because it's got glass panels and an expensive turbine engine. It's not a classic bush plane, no. But give it 50 years and we'll see. Of course, I wouldn't want to set down on those strips on 'phib floats, either. So, your point is fair enough. Defining "what is a bush plane" is like trying to differentiate between a trailer park, mobile home park and a modular home park (usually determined by the real estate agent involved). "Manufactured home neighborhood" is the new trailer park, I belive.
July 24, 201312 yr Moderator Well, anything can be put on floats... So technically, this could be considered a 'bush' plane. At the same time, so could this: I guess it's all based on perception... :smile:
July 24, 201312 yr Well, anything can be put on floats... So technically, this could be considered a 'bush' plane. Sure, why not? Bet those flaps take a beating on the water. At the same time, so could this: The Dash 7 was designed for small, back country airports typically served by Twotters and the like. A great plane designed for a market that never materialized. Once airports grew in pax numbers to support a plane as big as the Dash 7, they typically expanded the runways so they could support larger aircraft and operator didn't want to maintain 4 engines. This led to the development of the Dash 8. I guess it's all based on perception... :smile: It's not what you fly, it's how (and where) you fly it. regards, Joe The best gift you can give your children is your time.
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