August 15, 201312 yr Flying the NGX without the FMC is really missing the point of the aircraft. You're taking a very advanced plane and flying it like a VFR Cessna. Try one of the tutorials that come with the NGX. They're easy to follow and although punching keys into a tiny virtual computer may seems tedious at first, I think you'll come to understand the full potential quickly.
August 15, 201312 yr I suspect that once the OP figures out how to program the FMC, he will never want to fly another plane without one lol. Its a lot of fun planning and setting up the route. Plus you get a ton of info about your flight
August 15, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member I suspect that once the OP figures out how to program the FMC, he will never want to fly another plane without one lol. Its a lot of fun planning and setting up the route. Plus you get a ton of info about your flight Don't say that twice my friend. :lol: I'm a very strange animal, I want to learn all the FMC stuff, but somehow I always skip it and fly without it. I'm focused on flying the plane with AP and ATC, and keeping my FSCaptain PAX and dispatch happy. Maybe I'm skipping to learn it right now simply because I don't have a good rig for NGX and the payware airports I bought recently. Also I must run the autogen on sparse or even to disable it to feel the NGX properly. I will probably be nervous when T7 will be released. It is slightly easier on frames than NGX, so I will be on edge to buy it. Some will say it is a blasphemy to fly PMDG T7 without FMC programming. To be honest it is also a blasphemy to fly in FSX without FTX Global, but bunch of simmers still using GEX or default. :ph34r: Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
August 15, 201312 yr Don't say that twice my friend. :lol: I'm a very strange animal, I want to learn all the FMC stuff, but somehow I always skip it and fly without it. I'm focused on flying the plane with AP and ATC, and keeping my FSCaptain PAX and dispatch happy. Maybe I'm skipping to learn it right now simply because I don't have a good rig for NGX and the payware airports I bought recently. Also I must run the autogen on sparse or even to disable it to feel the NGX properly. I will probably be nervous when T7 will be released. It is slightly easier on frames than NGX, so I will be on edge to buy it. Some will say it is a blasphemy to fly PMDG T7 without FMC programming. To be honest it is also a blasphemy to fly in FSX without FTX Global, but bunch of simmers still using GEX or default. :ph34r: I was just like you man. I just wanted get up in the air and just lol. Once I learned how to program the FMC I started searching for more planes that had fmc's. Trust me its fun once you get the basics down. First time I learned how to do a holding pattern I so stoked. No if I'm too high for my approach I go into an hold and descend to my target alt, then continue on. The NGX is not that bad on frame rate if your settings are balanced. I usually get around 15-18 fps at flightbeam KSFO with traffic and weather, but once I take off my frames go right back to 30. For me 15-18 fps is good for me on the ground and I have an i5 with 16gig ram, with my sliders very close to the right. Plus I set my max texture load to 2048
August 15, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member I can't stand 15-18fps even in DX10, and that framerate feels like ~25 in dx9. The thing is, I'm very spolied FPS wise, because I flew quite a lot with default airplanes to learn the basics, and somehow I always chose ones that are easy on fps. So when you are flying for a year with fps always around 30 and 50, 15-18 looks like a slideshow. Matter of habit. Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
August 15, 201312 yr I can't stand 15-18fps even in DX10, and that framerate feels like ~25 in dx9. The thing is, I'm very spolied FPS wise, because I flew quite a lot with default airplanes to learn the basics, and somehow I always chose ones that are easy on fps. So when you are flying for a year with fps always around 30 and 50, 15-18 looks like a slideshow. Matter of habit. sorry to burst your bubble bro, but if you ever plan on flying a pmdg plane with weather and traffic, you wont be getting anything above 30fps on the ground at busy airports unless you have a super computer. It just the nature of the beast lol. The default planes dont use hi-res textures, so plane like the ngx or the T7 will not be so easy on the frame rate unless you turn all your settings down. Its a balance between the graphical details and the frame rates
August 15, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member I can stand 15-20 fps on the ground taxing and taking off. But on final I need at least 20-25fps to manage normal and smooth landing. And as many of us know, final approaches are the main fps killers due to nature of FSX memory management, lots of AI planes in view, and ofcourse payware airports. Who knows, maybe I will try in the following days NGX or QW 757 and fiddle a bit with FMC. Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
August 15, 201312 yr I create a flightplan via FSX, and ATC will follow it. I'm also using default GPS panel to view how I'm doing. But first of all, my fav plane right now is PA A320 v3 with some panel updates from official forum, and it doesn't come with proper FMC, that is the first reason. Second reason is, I don't have good rig for NGX or Airbus X Extended, lots of stutters, 15-20fps on approaches. When I upgrade my rig to i5 or i7, then I will consider learning FMC. The whole idea of FMC question that I posted here came from Frooglesim livestream last night. He was clicking on FMC buttons like 5-10 minutes, I was bored instantly, lol. To be fair, Froogle was not flyin any of yr listed aircraft, he was In the PMDG T7, Running in Beta, so double checking everything extended time to bring us all a good stream, hasnt had too many hrs on this fine piece of aircraft, some things are similiar to NGX some things are quite different. Just to clarify that point. but if your happy without it then so be it, has anyone mentioned the T7 is not quite so heavy on frames as the NGX, Just saying ! Happy flying Guss Anthony Kemp. (Guss) -Please :rolleyes: I heard, " There are 10 types Of people in the world, Those who understand Binary and those who don't " I must be the 9th Type.....
August 16, 201312 yr I usually get 20 - 23 FPS at Mega Airport Frankfurt in the 737-700 NGX with Fraps on and 90% sliders to max. It is fairly smooth, I have had FPS down to13-18 and really wasn't that much different. You should really learn the FMC now, you won't regret it. Do you have an iPad, put your FMC on that. Ric Elmore
August 16, 201312 yr And there are a ton of videos about FMC tutorials on youtube. Honestly that's how I learned. It really is time well spent. It also helps ease a very high workload in the sim. And do a de-rated takeoff, and you will be calling your non sim friends with glee. Trust me its very addictive! Flying big iron is about systems. If it breaks who you gonna have fix it. Center?
August 16, 201312 yr Do the NGX tutorial #1 - that's about all you need to fly most of the aircraft. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
August 16, 201312 yr What Ryan said. Tutorial 1. Its a short, enjoyable flight. As the FMC guides you into the approach, you will say "hey, this is really cool". Then do it a couple more times and you'll be hooked. FSX: PMDG 744/MD11/JS41/736/737/738/739, CS752/753/763/C130, SimCheck A300, Leonardo MD82, MJC DH8D, Aerosoft CRJ7/CRJ9/A318/A319/A320/A321, RAZBAM Metroliner, ORBX Global, FlyTampa KBUF/OMDB/TNCM/VHHX, ActiveSky Next DCS: A-10C II/F-16C/AH-64D/F-15E/KA-50 III/Mi-24/Persian Gulf/Syria/F-15C XP11: FF 752/753, iniBuilds A306, HotStart TBM900 MSFS: Fenix A320, FS2Crew Fenix A320, FS2Crew Pushback Express, PMDG B77W, ActiveSky FS, Drzewiecki Design UUEE
August 16, 201312 yr Author Commercial Member Cool, I'll do it. Anyway, I don't want to open a new thread, I will continue with noob questions here... I watched few PilotsEye videos and noticed that Jurgen is disconecting the AP pretty far from the runway. Why don't he allow the plane to use the glideslope till, let's say, 200ft above? I thought that is maybe because AP can't handle rudder, was windshear on final. But watched his aproach on KSFA few times and the weather was perfect. Also I watched a complete flight of A320 (some Brasilian airline) on YT, and the pilots are turning on the taxi light below 10000ft. I guess it is an airline policy, that landing lights are not mandatory if it is good weather? Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
August 16, 201312 yr that landing lights are not mandatory if it is good weather? landing lights are turned on in daytime or night time doesn't matter what the weather condition are I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
August 16, 201312 yr On the 737, we only used fixed landing lights during day. At night, both retractable and fixed, with the fixed turned off with gear up. Back on when landing clearance obtained. Regards,James White Aerosoft (Airbus X Extended/Twin Otter Extended/PFPX) & Majestic Q400 Beta Team
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