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Any word on a performance manager like that on the NGX? I would like to supress the external model cabin and change the VC displays/Texture quality

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+1 for a performance manager.

FPS is lower than the NGX and for me it kinda ruins the experiences sometimes. I might be spoiled but I want to have a consistent 30 FPS which I can only achieve in the NGX.

 

So yes, an option to change the resolution would be great because this thing is currently taking even the best systems to their knees. Just look at how many people already suddenly now experiencing OOMs, this thing is just a tad too complex for what FSX was originally designed for.

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Same. Would be the first time I would have to use one, but as this plane kills my fsx for some reason, I would love that as a future option.

 

Is it possible to make the cabin not load? Or is it part of the model. I only use the VC, and vary rarely, only when taking a cool screenshot actually look all around the plane anyway.

 

 

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It already exists. It's in the CDU options.

If you read the introduction PDF it tells you about all the various options.

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No ooms or bad fps here. Must be your system. It's no more complex than the 737ngx. The performance manager for the 737ngx doesn't really help much. I don't imagine it would help all that much for the 777. If you're having serious fps issues with the 777 something else is wrong.

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It already exists. It's in the CDU options.

If you read the introduction PDF it tells you about all the various options.

 

I've already tinkered with that, but what we're talking about is what came with a Service Pack for the NGX which allowd the resolution of the Virtual Cockpit to be turned down, which for me, VASTLY improved performance (even on my high end card).

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I'll go back and try out the 737 low res vc textures but I don't recall it really making a difference.

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Is it possible to make the cabin not load? Or is it part of the model. I only use the VC, and vary rarely, only when taking a cool screenshot actually look all around the plane anyway.

 

 

The cabin only loads with an external view, if you only use the VC, disabling it won't change anything. Try moving outside the VC sometime, kind of a cool view and it'll show you just how little outside of the VC is loaded (basically nothing).

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I've manually reduced textures of Virtual Cockpit with Photoshop and DTX Plugin and resized them from 1024 to 512 px. The frame rate is impressive better (in my system...).

 

I've noted virtually stutter during takeoff and landings and sometimes during taxi with framerate that goes down to 19-20 and return to 30 after TOFF. With NGX, 744 and MD11 this ""problem"" didn't occur.

 

To my mind it should be something in the virtual cockpit that disturb (eg some kind of calculation or a texture) that cause this problem! 

 

I'm sure that PMDG will investigate and resolve!

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It already exists. It's in the CDU options.

If you read the introduction PDF it tells you about all the various options.

Read it , you're not getting us lol. We're talking about that mini program that came with NGX that allows us to change quality of vc model, texture and displays quality. Even tho fps is better, I still suffer at high density airports and I know why. Its the 3d cabin in the external model. On the NGX I turned that off and saved 10 frames

The cabin only loads with an external view, if you only use the VC, disabling it won't change anything. Try moving outside the VC sometime, kind of a cool view and it'll show you just how little outside of the VC is loaded (basically nothing).

The wings however are loaded. If you look at the corner of either window you will see it. I disabled that using the perf manager in NGX and saved ALOT of frames

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I have to agree that some more options to improve fps would help, like with the Ngx. I kept reading about how the 777 is easier on frames than the Ngx but its not my experience. : /

 

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Quick question, are the frames worse than the CS777? That kind of would be the comparison,not systems wise,LOL,but in terms of FPS, I get 10-15 in it with my low end system,if anyone can tell me that I can pretty much gauge the performance to expect from it on my system.

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We saw across the board better FPS in the 777 than in the NGX with both the dev and beta/tech teams. Not sure what is going on for you guys, but we made a very serious effort to optimize it better etc. It has a much lower overall texture load than the NGX did.

 

As others said - the external model has 100% nothing to do with FPS in the cockpit - it does not load at all.

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We saw across the board better FPS in the 777 than in the NGX with both the dev and beta/tech teams. Not sure what is going on for you guys, but we made a very serious effort to optimize it better etc. It has a much lower overall texture load than the NGX did.

 

As others said - the external model has 100% nothing to do with FPS in the cockpit - it does not load at all.

hmmm.... okay

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Yep. Your fps and oom issues are yours. Something in your system is not optimized correctly. Also, in the 777, you can't see the wings from the cockpit, so they aren't modeled in the vc. There's nothing to disable like with the 737ngx. And those wings you see are not the same wings you see in the external views and model. It's completely separate; how fsx works. That's how you can combine different models and vc/ panels. You could even put turkey wings in the vc. That would be cool. Pmdg get on it!

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Some guys might like what I'm going to say, but here we go, fresh install of FSX and start from scratch :ph34r:! I did one a couple of weeks ago where I just have the CS777 and my CS767 and no other add on scenery except  a couple by Ray Smith. I did that having a feeling  the PMDG T7 release was around the corner. I'm picking it up tomorrow and I hope that this might help, but that advice was given to me when I had the such problems and it solved it 100%.

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As Skinner said, although it is not a fun thing to do, a complete reinstall, piece by piece will help your system run better. And as a bonus, will help you find out exactly what is eating your fps. It is usually not the aircraft, but interaction with something else in FS which eats frames.

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Have here around 30 FPS (locked), only when i move the mouse, it's drop to 22-24 FPS, so no big difference to the NGX for me......

Love that bird :) 

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We saw across the board better FPS in the 777 than in the NGX with both the dev and beta/tech teams.

That's certainly my experience as well, the 777 seems about 10-15% better than the NGX and I have Performance tweaked the same on both.

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would love performance manger. Once the heavy weather come my fps will drop bellow 30 kinda risky. Tabs any words on the manger?

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Remember also guys this is Release candidate, I think PMDG will look into this and try and improve things for the service packs etc.

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For me the NGX runs alot better also. I find that the FPS drop whenever I pan my view down to the pedestal in the VC.

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Hi,

 

Just thought I'd let you know that as my system is very texture sensitive in terms of frame rates, I tried messing around with a few things. Well I reduced the "Global texture resolution" setting in the graphics section of FSX from "very high" to "high" an ended up with something akin the quality of the level D 767. In my opinion it's actually better than the quality of the low res NGX (with the exception of the writing on the MCP panel). The textures of the pmdg 777 are that good.

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I can run the NGX very well at 30 FPS. 

 

This is not the case with me for the 777 though. If the plane is in level flight, I get 30fps easy. If I try to bank, turn, rudder, pitch or anything that involves a control surface, my framerate drops down to the low teens... or lower. Hand landings are basically out of the question now as 7FPS is not conducive to landing. If i switch to any other AC my framerate goes rate back to where it was.

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