November 13, 201312 yr I'm planning a short IFR flight from Kalispell (S27) to Missoula (KMSO). However, the only published charts I found for Missoula are IAPs, no terminal charts. Just out of curiosity - is this related to a size of an airport and/or its location relative to victor / jet airways? Thanks! Regards,Victor Quebec
November 16, 201312 yr Author Bump! Anyone?! Sent from my GT-I9295 using Tapatalk Regards,Victor Quebec
November 16, 201312 yr Probably because the airspace isn't all that congested, so planes can go straight to where they need to go, whereas at larger airports, you may have multiple airports trying to use the same airspace. Captain Kevin Air Kevin 124 heavy, wind calm, runway 4 left, cleared for take-off. Live streams of my flights here.
November 16, 201312 yr I found for Missoula are IAPs, no terminal charts. Just check in AirNav.com http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMSO It does not have a STAR.. but it has two DPs Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
November 17, 201312 yr Yup. Not all airports with IAPs have STARS nor do all airports with STARS have IAPs (though it's pretty common).
November 17, 201312 yr Just out of curiosity - is this related to a size of an airport and/or its location relative to victor / jet airways? Sorry, didn't see your question. It's not directly related to the size of the airport, but rather the amount of traffic needing to route into a given area, and it's relatively common in this part of the world to have airports with IAPs and no STAR. So, for example, you may have STARs at smaller airports in high traffic areas near larger regional or hub airports, but none at a modestly large airport like KMSO or KBZN even though both feature a number of IAPs. Note that transitions to the approach should still be fairly obvious if you look at the low-altitude IFR charts. Note also that many airports like this will have SIDs to help with departure transitions which may be dicey due to terrain, even though there are no STARs. Scott
November 17, 201312 yr Sometimes smaller executive airports near congested traffic centers will have arrival/departure procedures to avoid incursions with the larger airports but are too small in and of themselves to have many (or any) approach plates. That said, it's a good idea to check a couple sources before determining a procedure doesn't exist. Sometimes data (especially with the AIRAC cycles released for onboard FMC's) is either not current or is just flat out missing or wrong. Lots of resources online. I use airnav.com and skyvector.com quite a bit when flight planning (in or out of the cockpit). There are a half-dozen other sites or more too if you poke around including a few commercial ones.
November 17, 201312 yr I use Flightaware.com for domestic airports. It has plates for most or all of them. Some airports certainly do not have STARs or SIDs, as others have explained. Mike
November 17, 201312 yr nor do all airports with STARS have IAPs Err? A STAR with no IFR Approach, that doesn't make any sense. i7-13700KF, 32gb DDR4 3200, RTX 4080, Win 11, MSFS 2024
November 17, 201312 yr Author Thank you, gentlemen, that was helpful!!! Note also that many airports like this will have SIDs to help with departure transitions which may be dicey due to terrain, even though there are no STARs. Yes, I noticed that too. Scott, thanks for your detailed explanation! Regards,Victor Quebec
November 17, 201312 yr Not sure what you're flying but I've been having a blast lately flying GPS approaches into smaller airports - with the "new to me" RXP GNS430W in small GA planes.... With a decent autopilot - it even captures the artificial glide slope - amazing little price of software... Regards, Scott
November 25, 201312 yr Whoops. Meant DP not IAP. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Did you mean SID or DP? Take a look at KAJO. It has three STARs, no SIDs, but it does have (O)DPs.
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