hi all,i don,t suppose anyone would be kind enough to point me in the direction of a decent 4 engined prop plane?something with a top quality vc (working switches etc), accurate flight model and all the other features that make a great add on aircraft. can be free or payware.thanks

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but try this site.http://www.shockwaveproductions.com/wingsofpower/These are some fantastic planes. You can get their B 17 by download, or you can buy their entire pack in stores listed. Hawk

What he said about **. Fantastic machines. Plus do NOT fail to grab this wonderful Connie. One of the best freeware machines of all time IMHO.Now I gotta go buy a PFC 4 engine power quad. This Freeware stuff is going to cost me a BUNDLE!(:fsdzl049a_v1.zip

Here's a nice one. A freeware Ju 90.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/100937.jpg

I would certainly buy the Shackleton Project SAAF Shack Mr3, if I were you. Although I personally find the 2D panel substandard (and made a much improved version for myself), I seem to be the only one who notices the dozens of perspective anomalies there, so my fair guess is that you won't see them either.The VC is better, although partly based on the same photographs (from the wrong angle) that the 2D cockpit was made from, and if you ever sat in a REAL Shack cockpit you'll notice that for instance the box with the U/V cockpit lighting is pityfully unrealistic. But if you never saw a real Shack cocpkit you won't notice at all, and even those who DID sit behind the yoke of a real Shack often don't know (or PRETEND they don't know) what the heck I'm talking about.The flight model is absolutely SUPERB, the engine sounds are bloody GORGEOUS, the systems/procedures are GREAT, the outside visual model looks IMPRESSIVE, the 2D panel can be lived with if you simply don't know (or disregard) the rules of perspective, and the VC is even with its flaws more than good enough to be truly enjoyable. In short: I consider the Shackleton one of my best buys ever, and I think you would too.One advice: the Shackleton Project guys have their own forum. Never criticize their product there, because there're so tunnel-visioned that they simply can't see what you mean, and the whole posse will sink their teeth into your tender flesh. And when they're done with you, they'll ban you from the forum.In short: a VERY good product, made by as nasty and hateful a crowd as I ever encountered in this field of human endeavour. But this should not prevent you from buying their Shack, for once again: it's bloody GREAT!Be well!Jaap Verduijn.

Ditto for Wings of Power.bt

<>And I'll bet they have some bad points too!(-;

I like the Boeing 314 Clipper flying boat from "Pilots". It has a decent 3D cockpit, imo. As no flyable Clipper exists, it's hard to say if the flight model is realistic, but it's believeable, imo. It was originally designed for a previous version of FS, but got an extensive makeover for FS9, making it up to date with most planes designed for FS9. You can find more info here : http://b314clipper.com/It's one of my favourite big oldtimers.CheersPeter

The DASH-7 project DHC7 is a really good (freeware) 4-engine turboprop.http://www.flightsimonline.com/dash7/RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Washington, DC

Did Gibson ever upgrade any of his fine old vintage airliners for 2004? It's a shame if he didn't. He did good work.Dewey

Look NO further.. www.calclassic.com THE place to go!!Johan[A HREF=http://jdserver.no-ip.com]Personal Server[/A]or..http://62.238.33.10

TOTALLY concur on Calclassic.com.Get the DC-6 and DC-7 models. Unbelievable stuff and great community to go with it. The community is the real value because the knowledge base both on how to really fly these birds, plus just great folks. Also please add the Connie mentioned before. Its premium stuff and is currently being upgraded yet up another notch! (still freeware.)You simply cant go wrong with Tom Gibsons site though.Eric

Not yet released but lookin' good thusfar...http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/101021.jpghttp://forums.avsim.net/user_files/101022.jpg:-outtahttp://publish.hometown.aol.com/p3superb/i...s/sign_name.jpgThere is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness".- unknown"My daddy gives me up, to fight for you"- a US Military Members Child

Good day all,It

:-lol :-lol :-lol It looks as though the Shakleton folks will not only ban you from their forum but hunt you down if you post about them in other forums.:-lol :-lol Will