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Hi all,

 

I fly all the time in photoscenery with no autogen and have done for some time. I have done a full reinstall following all the recommendations from LM on here and their site, and although I did not have many problems with 2.0 that some had, I did have the stutters so went for the full install when it became available.

It might just be me but is anyone else who fly's with megasceneryearth v2 USA noticed that the scenery seems to lag a little.
If I hit pause, the scenery only comes back into focus after about 10 - 15 seconds. It didn't do this in 2.0.

 

Is there an optimum setting for photoscenery as opposed to flying default with autogen.

 

 

many thanks, Terry 

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Try running an 'Unlimited' frame rate in the Display Settings. And if you find your frames rates too unstable then use an external frame rate limiter, like that found in nVidia Inspector.... I set mine to 30fps

 

Also remove any Affinity Mask cfg tweaks and see how things are.

 

This has helped restore texture loading and stutters for me, and bring things back to the performance of photoscenery with 2.1.

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Hi Terry, I'm having the exact same problem. Like you, I only fly photoscenery, and like you, I installed the full new installation file. As soon as I'd got airborne for less than 1 mile, it was obvious that things were worse and not better.

I shall be watching this thread with great interest, let's hope someone out there can help us to sort this.

 

Good luck!

Phil

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I have same issue. After a few minutes in the air, texture loading lags (blurries) appear, and it gets worse the longer you fly. I never had this issue in V2.0. I hope there is a fix to this.

 

 

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Disable reflections - terrain.  That cleared things up for me with much faster rendering.  I turned off FXAA and changed MSAA to 8X's.  FXAA of course will make anything blurry to get rid of the jaggies.  Texture resolution is set at 1M.  No reason to go higher as that's the resolution of photoscenery.  I'm still testing but it's a lot better than when I first started a flight this morning out of KLAX.

 

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Texture resolution is set at 1M. No reason to go higher as that's the resolution of photoscenery.

 

It may be worthwhile making the resolution higher (max) strangely as it may put higher priority on the terrain loader, forcing the textures to load sooner. This was reputedly the case in FSX and may well carry over to P3D.

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Hi, I've tried turning reflection off for terrain, for me it's not made any difference V2.1 is noticeably more delayed than v2.0 in loading textures in photoscenery. For me it's like going back to FSX days, I wonder if the fibre frame fraction tweak would do any good?

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It may be worthwhile making the resolution higher (max) strangely as it may put higher priority on the terrain loader, forcing the textures to load sooner. This was reputedly the case in FSX and may well carry over to P3D.

You comment makes no sense to me.  What's a terrain loader?  Is that a new app in P3D?  I do not believe in max settings. I do not believe in tweaks. Some think an application should be developed so that all you have to do is crank up the settings to max and go fly and everything will be beautiful (or should be or there's something seriously wrong with the program!).  It may work like that for some games on the Internet but not P3D or FSX.  You want to give your graphics card some breathing room to render textures as fast as possible.  You place stress on the card and it will not perform at its optimum.  This is why one of the major recommendations of the MSE V2 developers is to make sure your external and wing view resolution is set BELOW 40.  Anything higher will place stress on the video card and cause blurriness.  Setting the resolution to between 30 and 40 will also make MSE look more realistic.  P3D does a very good job at setting that resolution up as the default for most aircraft for wing views and vc's but not for external views.  The iFly737 is almost right on target.

 

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You comment makes no sense to me. What's a terrain loader?

 

Hi Jim.... I am talking about the terrain loading system within the simulator its self.

 

This advice came from the developers of Horizon photoscenery, and I have see it elsewhere too.... that increasing the 'Scenery Texture Resolution' (higher than the scenery you are running) raises the priority of the terrain loading portion of the engine, which can help prevent blurries.

 

It should not affect performance as the textures cannot load at a higher resolution than they were created... it may not have any bearing on P3D as obviously some things have changed.

 

Its only a suggestion, and a harmless one - if it does not work, or makes thing worse, then set it back down.... otherwise I agree 100% with what you are saying - reduce the stress as much as you can and do not crank everything to the max, or tweak, for no good reason.

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one of the major recommendations of the MSE V2 developers is to make sure your external and wing view resolution is set BELOW 40. Anything higher will place stress on the video card and cause blurriness. Setting the resolution to between 30 and 40 will also make MSE look more realistic.

 

Hi Jim:

 

Would you please be so kind as to explain this more clearly ? :Shocked:

 

I believe some folks here may not quite understand what "40" (as a measure of units) refers to in relation to "resolution" in P3D ...or FSX for that matter. :blush:

 

Thanks in advance for your further clarification on this, and also for your ongoing efforts to share ideas for improvement of the flight simulation experience by end users. :smile:

 

GaryGB

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It's those red numbers in the upper right corner of your screen when you hit the plus and minus keys.

 

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This advice came from the developers of Horizon photoscenery, and I have see it elsewhere too.... that increasing the 'Scenery Texture Resolution' (higher than the scenery you are running) raises the priority of the terrain loading portion of the engine, which can help prevent blurries.

 

Sounds like NickN and his advice to lower AF in FSX but turn it up to 16x's in the NI settings and that will cause the video card to do all the work.  Maybe the same principle applies in P3D. He use to work for Nvidia so maybe that's a solution too.

 

In any case, my MSE V2 looks great in P3D (with lower settings; no tweaks) and I feel sorry for those who cannot get it to work properly for them.  One of the best things I found in comparison to FSX is that MSE V2 does not stutter.  It is smooth as heck.  This is one reason why I will be moving from FSX to P3D much faster than I thought.

 

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Hi everybody,

 

same problem here getting blurries with v2.1 which I absolutely didn´t had with v2.0 (fast jets). I also fly only Photoreal, what I experienced is that in default scenery I don´t have any blurries at all, LM may have changed something at the cost of us photoscenery flyers...

Novation is right, I tried setting the resolution lower and I got more blurries than with max res.

I really don´t know or better to say I don´t see any differences with all these cfg entries like Fiber Frame...etc. I have tried nearly everything what I now from the FSX times, but not really succeeding.

It seems like that the GPU is behind loading the terrain scenery, I guess LM made preference now in performance than in terrain loading. As with performance I have really good fps and with all sliders on max. except the shadows and AI roadtraffic.

 

my rig:

I7920@3,6

ASUS R290X 4gig GPU,

 

regards Harry

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How come my MSE V2 is clear and yours is not (or you say it's not)?

 

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I don't know what you're implying by "(or you say it's not"?  There are a few of us on this thread who know whether the image is clear or not and I can tell you now, v2.1 is nowhere near as clear as v2.0 used to be.

There are definite benefits in V2.1 however, this issue is a real problem 9not imagined) for photoscenery users

 

Phil Murfin

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