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The AXE-man cometh...

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...but doth stutter after some time.

 

To decode that into modern English, I am trying in vain to complete a flight with the Airbus X Extended. It is as smooth as butter at first, but after an hour or so in P3D v2.2 I start to get heavy stuttering and eventually it just freezes up the sim. I have installed the AXE as recommended by Aerosoft with hotfix 1.19 and the replacement ASC.dll, made a fresh Prepar3d.cfg, scenery.cfg, and deleted the shader cache. the Nvidia profile is also default. Sliders are more or less default, with just a hint of cloud shadows. My PC is quite recent and is a high-end machine.

 

This doesn't happen to me with any other add-on plane including the iFly 737NG. Looking for ideas guys, have any of you flown flights of 1 hour or more in the AXE in P3D v2.2 and not had this issue?

 

Thx.

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I'm waiting for the FSLabs Airbus....  Gave up any other Airbus until then ...

 

I also look forward to be able to get my 777 and NGX ( both PMDG ) in P3Dv2.2

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But it works great in FSX - my favourite airliner!

From the symptoms it looks like some sort of memory leak but I just want to find out other people's experiences.

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...but doth stutter after some time.

 

To decode that into modern English, I am trying in vain to complete a flight with the Airbus X Extended. It is as smooth as butter at first, but after an hour or so in P3D v2.2 I start to get heavy stuttering and eventually it just freezes up the sim. I have installed the AXE as recommended by Aerosoft with hotfix 1.19 and the replacement ASC.dll, made a fresh Prepar3d.cfg, scenery.cfg, and deleted the shader cache. the Nvidia profile is also default. Sliders are more or less default, with just a hint of cloud shadows. My PC is quite recent and is a high-end machine.

 

This doesn't happen to me with any other add-on plane including the iFly 737NG. Looking for ideas guys, have any of you flown flights of 1 hour or more in the AXE in P3D v2.2 and not had this issue?

 

Thx.

The AXE is not claimed to be P3D V2.2 compatible.

 

However, you should first confirm the memory leak is coming from the AXE, by starting p3d with the AXE and stay on the ground without moving at all (engines started with full FPLN).

 

Watch the memory usage in taskmgr. If the memory increase by more than 10MB continuously then yes its a memory leak.

 

Memory leaks are extremely hard to confirm on the move (aircraft moving) without proper tools (that typical customers wouldn't have).

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The AXE is not claimed to be P3D V2.2 compatible.

 

However, you should first confirm the memory leak is coming from the AXE, by starting p3d with the AXE and stay on the ground without moving at all (engines started with full FPLN).

 

Watch the memory usage in taskmgr. If the memory increase by more than 10MB continuously then yes its a memory leak.

 

Memory leaks are extremely hard to confirm on the move (aircraft moving) without proper tools (that typical customers wouldn't have).

 

Thanks Josh, I'll give that a try.

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I've made at least half dozen 2hr + flights with the AXE and neither OOM'd or noticed any severe stuttering.  I don't have a fancy rig either - i52500K@4.6, GTX580.

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Hey Dean, thanks for the info.

That confirms that something in my install is messing up the AXE.

I think I'll try a fresh install of P3D and test it with zero add-ons.

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I have the same problem as reported by you. After 20-30 minutes flying I see very small stutters every second or so, especially noticeable in the outside view.

These stutters become worser and worser and after 1 hour flying it becomes difficult to land the airplane safely. The reported FPS is always (between 30-40 FPS) but sometimes I see the number changing to below 10 for a very short period of time when the large stutters are there.

I have tried to find the cause of this problem. The only flight I did not see it was without a connection to IVAO (are you on IVAO) and without USB head phone. 

So maybe the problem can be solved with these two components but this can  also be coincidence.

But I see also some other symptoms that can give a clue: when I use the flight recorder of the AXE, a file is written in the flightrecorder directory. I see that each time the problem occurs, thousands of small files are written in this directory. Every few seconds or so a new file is created.

I have also a Saitek controller. I have noticed that at the same moment the flightrecorder files start to get created something goes wrong with the rudder pedals. They still work but when I move one pedal to far the plane doesn't turn anymore. 

So maybe the Saitek controller is causing this problem. I have Win 8.1 and joysticks seem to be a problem with FSX and P3D. So now I switched of the controllers in P3D and will be using FSUIPC to do the setup of the controllers. This will be my next test.

 

Snoopy_belgium

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Since the patched 2.1 I do not have the slightest problems with AXE, even on 6hr flights. Before AXE was simply not usable: stutters and after a few minutes OOM or P3D freezes.

 

Also now with 2.2 (+ flight planner patch) it works very fine. Therefore AXE is back as my favourite aircraft also in P3D2.2.

 

Some time ago I also tried the newly supplied  ASC.dll but kicked it off again because it did not solve any problem but added more trouble. Therefor I am back with the original ASC.dll.

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I have the same problem as reported by you. After 20-30 minutes flying I see very small stutters every second or so, especially noticeable in the outside view.

These stutters become worser and worser and after 1 hour flying it becomes difficult to land the airplane safely. The reported FPS is always (between 30-40 FPS) but sometimes I see the number changing to below 10 for a very short period of time when the large stutters are there.

I have tried to find the cause of this problem. The only flight I did not see it was without a connection to IVAO (are you on IVAO) and without USB head phone. 

So maybe the problem can be solved with these two components but this can  also be coincidence.

But I see also some other symptoms that can give a clue: when I use the flight recorder of the AXE, a file is written in the flightrecorder directory. I see that each time the problem occurs, thousands of small files are written in this directory. Every few seconds or so a new file is created.

I have also a Saitek controller. I have noticed that at the same moment the flightrecorder files start to get created something goes wrong with the rudder pedals. They still work but when I move one pedal to far the plane doesn't turn anymore. 

So maybe the Saitek controller is causing this problem. I have Win 8.1 and joysticks seem to be a problem with FSX and P3D. So now I switched of the controllers in P3D and will be using FSUIPC to do the setup of the controllers. This will be my next test.

 

Snoopy_belgium

 

Hey Snoopy, I have been testing the AXE with a fresh install of 2.2.

It works fine up to the point where I install FTX Global base textures, then I get the stuttering.

I guess the obvious question is, are you also using FTXG?

 

Thanks.

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Hi Deetee,

 

No, I'm using the standard scenery. I'm using REX Essential Plus for weather injection. 

When the flight starts I have no stuttering at all, after 20-30 minites  I see very small stutters and after 1 hour of flying it becomes difficult to fly the bus.

 

Snoopy_belgium

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Yesterday I made a flight with a standard aircraft (A36 Bonanza) together with REX and IVAO. So everything was the same except the airplane. Without the Airbus EXt there was no problem at all. After one hour of flying no stuttering and performance is really good.

So there must be a problem with the Airbus EXT in P3D. I have performed a clean install now of the Airbus and I will see if this has solved the problem.

 

Snoopy_belgium

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I think it may have something to do with the latest Orbx libraries, I will test some more...

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I was flying the ifly737 before and seemed to be hard on frames... now that I am using the airbus, I can say with confidence (on my system) the airbus is much easier on frame rates.  At times while cruising I get up to 70 fps... never got this with the ifly.

 

Also, I am sure FSLabs A320 will be nice, but the Aerosoft one is a fine aircraft... and I have always flown it side by side with my PMDG planes on FSX.  I for one will keep it long term.

 

-Phil

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I'm using the AXE without any problems in P3D 2.2. And I also use Orbx FTX Global along with tons of other add-ons. No stuttering here. Even in longer flights. It does lead to a hit on frames (as in FSX) so maybe it's just the performance of the system which is not sufficient to run the AXE stutter free? It definitely works stutter free on my system so I would assume it has nothing to do with the AXE itself...

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To clarify, I also have FTX Global and FTX Vector.  Also had lots of payware airports... I don't think I have ever been "stutter free" but it is smooth enough.  Even on my 4770K and GTX 780 system I get occasional stutters.

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Guys, this is not a system performance issue, the AXE works smooth as butter for me. Only after 1 hour+ does it start to stutter badly.

Other aircraft such as the iFly do not suffer from this.

 

I will continue to test after my reinstall.

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Guys, this is not a system performance issue, the AXE works smooth as butter for me. Only after 1 hour+ does it start to stutter badly.

Other aircraft such as the iFly do not suffer from this.

 

I will continue to test after my reinstall.

 

Dave, silly question but do you have the latest installer, etc?  When I first installed AXE I had issues as well... half of the displays would not come on.  When I reinstalled P3D it now magically works pretty much 100%.

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To clarify, I also have FTX Global and FTX Vector. Also had lots of payware airports... I don't think I have ever been "stutter free" but it is smooth enough. Even on my 4770K and GTX 780 system I get occasional stutters.

Just out of curiosity, which version of the Orbx libraries do you have installed?

Mine is working OK so far with the Oct 2013 version.

I may be on a wild goose chase but please humour me. :)

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Whatever the most recent one is. All orbx stuff is working well although personally am not impressed with Vector.

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Good day gentlemen and gentlewomen.

I have tried to work out this Freezing AXE on P3D 2.2 problem since.. 2.2, actually.

  Stripping every add-on and mesh and whatever, only gave a temporary placebo result. Ok for a while, then frozen again. (down to around 0.4 FPS)

Obviously I realize that Airbus X is not yet fully compatible with P3D 2.2, but why let a thing like that stop me?

  A solution which has so far worked for me and my partly ageing rig (GTX 680 4GB, and very overclocked AMD x6  3.4 MHz Phenom) is:

 

1. Disable or move your Airbus X folders into temporary folders, so you can quickly return to normal if this doesn't work for you(!) and

2. don't bother to un-install your installed version.. Just re-install over the top...

3. BUT not the 1.19 version or the ASC fix. There seems to be something in there that P3D 2.2 disagrees with.

4. The version which works perfectly (for me) is 1.16. Just as it is.

PS. Mess about with configurator too, to reduce stuttering (see thread "Strange Stutter Problem" 31st May 2014)

 

I'd love to know if this is of help. More tests needed.

I have maxed-out settings for several hours at a time and only had one fatal error whilst multi-tasking during a landing at EBBR from EGKK With max Ultimate Traffic 2 working as well.

 

(Migration Tool is a magic addon!!) :P

 

Deepredson

 

 

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I think it may have something to do with the latest Orbx libraries, I will test some more... 

 

​I also noticed immediately after installing Orbx libraries messed up my P3D - did a new install of P3D used Their latest libraries and have not had a problem since - make sure you are using Their latest they came out about 2 weeks ago 

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Thanks Richard. Even more testing. Good thing it fascinates us enough to do it.

 

Deepredson

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