My point was meant non-specifically, there are others reading. You're touchy. :rolleyes:

I thought you quoting me meant you were talking about my problem more than the general problem

"Two flights with AI (no cars) - freezes" - you turned up the FSX traffic slider from zero? This wouldn't mean there's a bug in FSX ATC/Ai.

I had Airline traffic at 45%, General aviation at 35%, airport services low, cars zero, boots both at 20%. With this setup I had freezes.

 

Then I did two flights with ALL sliders at zero and had NO freezes.

 

And I said it is a tendency.

Maybe something is wrong with default FSX AI

Then I changed all AI at zero to Airlines at 45% again.

Only Airlines.

 

First flight was good.

Second flight frooze.

 

So now all sliders are back at zero again and I will test 10X with the same exact saved flight, with all AI off.

(which will take me a while).

If in 10 flights I get no freezes with AI off.........then FSX AI is buggy.

If I get a freeze in any of those 10 flights......then it is something else.

 (ATC/Ai - denotes difference from ai-aircraft/scenery)

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Hi Rob,

 

my freezes go on.

 

Sorry to hear that Olli :-(

 

Did you test with accelerated flight or normal speed?

 

I am doing all my test with 4x speed.

Otherwise it takes too long to test (last flight frooze from JFK to Europe just before reaching Europe), but who knows.....maybe accelerated flight is the cause in combination with AI.

Still does not mean FSX Ai is buggy. You have to do the test with stock FSX to declare that. And then you have to be sure no previous addons have left something mis-set. You need to pare back your sim. I may not fly the 777 as much as you guys but stock FSX and 777 work day and night long here.

? When you insert Ai Aircraft ATC is operating, but the aircraft and interaction with scenery is another thing. If the aircraft are not stock, we could have since added dodgy variations, anything could happen, and it's no good blaming the FSX Ai/ATC system.

Try FSX Ai at 45% etc, but with stock FSX and stock aircraft, and stock scenery - I don't think you'll be seeing any freezes.

 

"If in 10 flights I get no freezes with AI off.........then FSX AI is buggy.
If I get a freeze in any of those 10 flights......then it is something else."

 

I'm sorry to say it, but this line of reasoning is illogical, and besides, in an alternate universe there would be stuff plastered all over AVSIM about avoiding the traffic slider and keeping it at zero.

4 flights with 4x accelerated flight. (I let it go for about an hour).

 

Two flights without any AI - no freezes

Two flights with AI (no cars) - freezes

 

A bit early for a final conclusion, but a tendency for sure.

 

Interesting.

 

I get the issue with stock AI.

Still does not mean FSX Ai is buggy. You have to do the test with stock FSX to declare that. And then you have to be sure no previous addons have left something mis-set.

 

If the aircraft are not stock, we could have since added dodgy variations, anything could happen, and it's no good blaming the FSX Ai/ATC system.

Try FSX Ai at 45% etc, but with stock FSX and stock aircraft, and stock scenery - I don't think you'll be seeing any freezes.

 

This is rediculous!

 

I said in post 23 + 24 + 28 + 30 + 41 that I am testing on a fresh Windows 7 installation, with a fresh install of FSX + Acceleration, with no other addons except the PMDG777 and the OPUS weather engine.

All brand new, standard, default stuff (except the 777 and OPUS).

 

This has gone far enough, as in nowhere, I am going stop responding to you.

Interesting.

 

I get the issue with stock AI.

Yes, me too.

 

But I am still testing to see if it is really FSX stock AI related or if maybe I get freezes as well without the stock AI.

 

So far I have done two flights with ALL forms of stock AI off, from JFK to Europe without freezes!

8 more to go. but that's for tonight/tomorrow.

I get the long 10 minute freeze, then the timezone completely changes and the whole thing "resets", however the flight then goes on at normal.. I don't lose and FMC settings or anything like that... is that what others get?

You just brought up an interesting point. I wonder if the freeze is in any way related to crossing time zone boundaries in FSX at which point the in-sim time would normally change by one hour, either forward or back. Especially with AI enabled, which would be flying in accordance with a time-based schedule.

 

If that theory has any weight, I assume it would mean the possibility of a freeze would be greater on flights traveling east or west, rather than north or south.

(...)

Did you test with accelerated flight or normal speed?

(...)

 

 

Time acceleration seems to increase the likelihood of freezes, but I get enough freezes (more than "enough", actually  :lol:) in 1x flights. AI traffic is MyTraffic2010 with both sliders at 20%.

with no other addons except the PMDG777 and the OPUS weather engine.

 

So you are saying that your freezes happen just the same without the 777 and Opus running? If you have anything else other than stock how can you possibly say your FSX Ai is faulty? How ridiculous I should stop trying to help you, hehe. :Clown:

 

What about the possibility of some kind of internet connection problem with Opus getting weather? You need to run without Opus to eliminate it. All I'm saying is you need to work out a valid logical process of elimination or muck around for days. That's why the first thing I said was pare back everything and test.

Here's another scenario; enabling FSX Ai Traffic means less resources for something else. It could be that those resources (memory) simply run out for Opus or 777, now that there's aircraft flying about all over the place. Does not automatically mean there's a fault in FSX Ai.

This is rediculous!

 

I said in post 23 + 24 + 28 + 30 + 41 that I am testing on a fresh Windows 7 installation, with a fresh install of FSX + Acceleration, with no other addons except the PMDG777 and the OPUS weather engine.

All brand new, standard, default stuff (except the 777 and OPUS).

 

This has gone far enough, as in nowhere, I am going stop responding to you.

Yes, me too.

 

But I am still testing to see if it is really FSX stock AI related or if maybe I get freezes as well without the stock AI.

 

So far I have done two flights with ALL forms of stock AI off, from JFK to Europe without freezes!

8 more to go. but that's for tonight/tomorrow.

 

Now I think about it the only times i've had this freezing issue are when i've had AI turned on. I flew the sim with AI on when I first used it a few months ago, used to get the freezes. Then I turned AI off and didn't have freezing for a few months until recently when I turned it back on. I never put the two together in my mind so i wasn't consciously turning it off to get rid of the freezing. 

 

You just brought up an interesting point. I wonder if the freeze is in any way related to crossing time zone boundaries in FSX at which point the in-sim time would normally change by one hour, either forward or back. Especially with AI enabled, which would be flying in accordance with a time-based schedule.

 

If that theory has any weight, I assume it would mean the possibility of a freeze would be greater on flights traveling east or west, rather than north or south.

 

I've had the freeze travelling due south when I was nowhere near a time zone boundary/longitude line. Not saying you're wrong as there's likely to be a few causes of the freeze so this doesn't rule it out. 

Depending on where you are, and at what time, one place may spawn twice as much Ai traffic as another. It's possible with limited available resources, a sudden injection of traffic as you come up to a new area could cause the "freeze", while FSX injects the traffic with some other problem preventing the smooth injection. Again it wouldn't be a problem with FSX Ai since it doesn't happen in stock trim, or as I said it would be all over the site *Avoid FSX traffic*. Traffic addons feed the same system so they wouldn't work either. Have you made any tweaks?

You just brought up an interesting point. I wonder if the freeze is in any way related to crossing time zone boundaries in FSX at which point the in-sim time would normally change by one hour, either forward or back. Especially with AI enabled, which would be flying in accordance with a time-based schedule.

If that theory has any weight, I assume it would mean the possibility of a freeze would be greater on flights traveling east or west, rather than north or south.

I agree, interesting and worth testing.

Depending on where you are, and at what time, one place may spawn twice as much Ai traffic as another. It's possible with limited available resources, a sudden injection of traffic as you come up to a new area could cause the "freeze", while FSX injects the traffic with some other problem preventing the smooth injection. Again it wouldn't be a problem with FSX Ai since it doesn't happen in stock trim, or as I said it would be all over the site *Avoid FSX traffic*. Traffic addons feed the same system so they wouldn't work either. Have you made any tweaks?

 

No tweaks. Just HIGHMEMFIX = 1.

I've had the freeze travelling due south when I was nowhere near a time zone boundary/longitude line. Not saying you're wrong as there's likely to be a few causes of the freeze so this doesn't rule it out.

 

Ok, so far for that theory then.

No tweaks. Just HIGHMEMFIX = 1.

 

A tweak to cure another problem, like texture bandwidth issues, and largely does not work and causes other problems like stalling? Have you tried without?

A tweak to cure another problem, like texture bandwidth issues, and largely does not work and causes other problems like stalling? Have you tried without?

 

I only fly once a fortnight so never bother tweaking anything as i'd likely not fly often enough to see any consistency. I thought everyone and their dog used this line in their .cfg?