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Hello,

 

Interested in learning more about chart reading, in particular Navigraph Charts. Would like to know of any quality guides out there.

 

Kevin

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Brutal! But very true.

 

Read the post carefully.

On top of that, "jeppesen" is mispelled :huh:

Lol that really ANNOYED me!

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Read the post carefully.

Sorry I was only joking. Did you have a look on Google though - to be honest it often leads to better results than posting on here. What about the charts do you want to learn about? Do you understand some of the information but not all? Or is the whole thing Greek to you? 

 

Wes

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Interested in learning more about chart reading, in particular Navigraph Charts. Would like to know of any quality guides out there.

 

There are no guides specifically for Navigraph charts, but they represent a subset of the Jeppesen and/or FAA charts.  Take a look here http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/aero_guide/ for the FAA's guide to reading plates.

 

DJ

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Sorry I was only joking. Did you have a look on Google though - to be honest it often leads to better results than posting on here. What about the charts do you want to learn about? Do you understand some of the information but not all? Or is the whole thing Greek to you? 

 

Wes

Hello Wes,

 

Anything that helps understanding Navigraph charts, all types. I understand some info but want to expand my knowledge. I did a search on google but I don't want to buy something that is crap if there is something better out there.

 

Don't worry about posting here, it's a forum.

There are no guides specifically for Navigraph charts, but they represent a subset of the Jeppesen and/or FAA charts.  Take a look here http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/aero_guide/ for the FAA's guide to reading plates.

 

DJ

Thanks ubersu,

 

I'll take a look.

 

Kevin

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http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ifr+charts

 

It's a google search, but not mean't in a bad fashion. There is several videos on how to read aeronautical aviation IFR charts. If you want to read VFR, then search accordingly.

 

It's a good idea to not only focus on Navigraph, but also on official charts used in the real world as in my experience they're much clearer, easier and shows more information. Usually they can be downloaded from the countries air transport agency or vatsim. Even just google charts and make sure they're up to date if intent to fly on vatsim.

 

The reason I linked to video tutorials is because as for me it's more relaxing and easier to remember than reading countless of documents, but that might differ from person to person. And you're right, don't waste any money on learning anything related to FS as everything is free.

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Yeah great info, I saw some vat sim guy doing YouTube tutorials, pretty good too. Haven't really seen real world charts, I'm not a pilot. I'll dig around though. Noticed some of the Navigraph don't seem to marry up between stars and enroute, I'll look for the free stuff, not knowing about some things on the charts is a bit restrictive.

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For airports I use Navigraph. For enroute charts I use thus site http://skyvector.com/. I use to use Navigraph for enroute but now I use Sky Vector since it is free.

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Thanks Michael,

 

I checked out sky vector, it is a brilliant site. I am going that way too.

 

Kevin

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Hello Wes,

 

Anything that helps understanding Navigraph charts, all types. I understand some info but want to expand my knowledge. I did a search on google but I don't want to buy something that is crap if there is something better out there.

 

Don't worry about posting here, it's a forum.

 

Thanks ubersu,

 

I'll take a look.

 

Kevin

Kevin, charts can seem daunting at first, I don't know of any guide that I can link you to but if you have a sample chart you don't understand, I might be able to help explain it for you. I do not consider myself a complete expert however, but willing to try and help where I can. 

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Kevin, charts can seem daunting at first, I don't know of any guide that I can link you to but if you have a sample chart you don't understand, I might be able to help explain it for you. I do not consider myself a complete expert however, but willing to try and help where I can.

 

That's a great and certainly use- and helpfull offering!

I'd definitely consider to take advantage of it Kevin as i also think that one or two practical examples may offer a most helpful, first general overview to begin with.

:smile2:

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If you guys don't have one I could pull up one I am familiar with.....

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Wes, if I get stuck I will take up your offer and send you a pm. I have topographic maps (many) and they publish a guide to help read the map, pretty important to know what your looking at. In the meantime I will check out the links.

That's a great and certainly use- and helpfull offering!

I'd definitely consider to take advantage of it Kevin as i also think that one or two practical examples may offer a most helpful, first general overview to begin with.

:smile2:

Good people out there Christoph.

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Magpie22, on 25 Jun 2014 - 12:19 AM, said:

Wes, if I get stuck I will take up your offer and send you a pm. I have topographic maps (many) and they publish a guide to help read the map, pretty important to know what your looking at. In the meantime I will check out the links.

Well done for at least trying. The topo based maps can have a large amount of what one of my instructors referred to as "static" - information that was not really critically pertinent to the actual procedure, but when read properly, assisted with situational awareness. I am sure someone else can teach you better than me, perhaps via those links. I never was a good teacher (read, lack of patience, I have worked on this over the years.)

 

Good luck!

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If you're new to flying, I would recommend you to become virtual pilot for http://www.flyuk.aero . It has a training program person to person for new pilots when it comes to operating complex addons, procedures, navigation, charts reading, air traffic control etc etc. Will help you a lot.

 

There is several other virtual airlines offering free interactive training programs as well, mostly in the US and Europe.

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If you're new to flying, I would recommend you to become virtual pilot for http://www.flyuk.aero . It has a training program person to person for new pilots when it comes to operating complex addons, procedures, navigation, charts reading, air traffic control etc etc. Will help you a lot.

 

There is several other virtual airlines offering free interactive training programs as well, mostly in the US and Europe.

That is something that interests me, I have been on FS for years and would have been better off joining a quality program. I'm pretty sure it would have accelerated my learning curve. I've only started getting into charts, joined Navigraph not that long ago, spent my time before learning about the ngx(still lots to learn-great plane).

 

Thanks pete_auau.

 

Wes, I used the topos for bush walking, just trying to point out they have a guide to read the map.

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Wes, I used the topos for bush walking, just trying to point out they have a guide to read the map.

They do indeed, but aviation versions tend to expect those looking at them know what they are looking at! But no matter, I am sure you will figure it out by yourself or with our help! 

 

EDIT: It is all part of the fun.

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Yeah, you have to remember the market and medium for your maps here:

 

Printed maps for walking bush need to be printed such that experienced people can easily look at them and know what they're looking at, but simple enough that the average city sod, who really shouldn't be out in the bush to begin with, can manage to get back to the car park after they run out of water (because they didn't bring enough), and have thoroughly burned themselves (because they didn't dress appropriately).  That is to say maps like that are aimed a people with a wide range of chart knowledge.

 

Aviation maps are targeted more at people who have gone through training.  The very fact that you have to sit through ground school and receive instruction in order to be in a position to have to use those charts means you don't have to target the chart at some generic character who has no knowledge whatsoever.  They can learn how to read them in ground school.  Additionally, the printed versions also have a guide at the front of them (and occasionally just inside the back cover).

 

Since things have now moved more progressively to electronic formats, you simply need to look for the legends as a separate search from the chart itself.  Heck, even the FAA has gone digital (and vector, too, which I'm immensely impressed with).  That being said, they have a book specifically targeted at helping people learn more about charts and their relevant symbology:

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/aero_guide/media/Chart_Users_Guide_12thEd.pdf

 

Have a look there - it might be slightly different than Jeppessen (or other charting company) symbology, but it's close enough that you'll be able to tell what's what...

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