I don´t like this manner to give a solution to the problem. For example, what´s happen if the users decided to buy VECTOR ??? Will they have to reinstall Windows?

 

I understand Orbx could see if you have illegal copies of software and, in this case, delete it. I agree with it. But, if you buy the product, later and in your computer you only have legal copies, they must not to touch in your hard disk. Re-install windows, yes or yes, is unacceptable. [/font][/color]

When somebody installs a hacked /pirated copy of an ORBX product, it leaves traces of itself in the Windows registry, and that registry entry remains in the registry forever - even if the hacked product is later removed. That registry "pirate sign" is what triggers the deletion of the ORBX folder. For the great majority of persons who have done this to their own computer (by installing hacked software) the only way to get a clean registry is to reinstall Windows.

 

How can you say this is unacceptable? ORBX did NOT damage the Windows registry - the person who chose to install the pirated software did the damage. People who choose to break the rules know that what they are doing is wrong - now they have to pay a price for committing theft.

 

Reinstalling is a pain to be sure, but anyone who finds themself in that situation is 100 percent responsible for being in that situation.

 

It would be like someone who robs a bank - and gets away with it at the time. Even if they never break the law again, if the police find evidence years later that can tie them to the crime - something like fingerprints or DNA, that person is going to have to answer for what they did, even if they have been law abiding since they committed the crime.

 

If all a person has to do to "make things right" with ORBX is to reinstall Windows, they should consider themselves lucky. After all, ORBX would be perfectly within their rights to bring legal action against anyone found with evidence of pirated software on their computer.

I repeat. An example, as I said in a previous post .. "I can not understand how they can erase all folders (with vector, global etc...) when a installer found a pirate copy of, for example, one of them. >>>>Imagine you have bought Global & Europe LC and Vector has been downloaded in an illegal manner, because You thought to try before buy it <<<<" Are they going to delete all the ORBX folder ? And what´s happen with the bought products, GLOBAL and EUROPE ??? Will they been deleted ???

 

I don´t like this manner to give a solution to the problem. For example, what´s happen if the users decided to buy VECTOR ??? Will they also have to re-install windows ??? Three products bought and you have to re-install of windows ??? No my friend, ... This is not the way to solve the problem. In fact, I will not buy anything of ORBX if they "touch" my hard disk and, of course, I will not re-install windows to use their products.

 

I understand Orbx could see if you have illegal copies of software and, in this case, delete it. I agree with it. But, if you buy the product, later and in your computer you only have legal copies, they must not to touch in your hard disk. Re-install windows, yes or yes, is unacceptable.

As explained in the post I linked to you and quoted. If you actuall read the EULA when you bought the product and agreed to it, then there's nothing you can do. I suspect most people don't read the EULA and just click the OK button and agree. Once you agree to the terms of the EULA you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

Getting your ORBX files deleted is actually going pretty easy considering the alternatives for pirating people who pirate their software. I'd rather have my files deleted than have them take me to court.

 

The best solutions are:

 

1. Read the EULA when you install software so you understand the terms.

2. Don't use pirated software, even if it's just as a trial to see if you like it prior to purchasing it.

3. Don't buy any more ORBX software if you don't agree to their terms.

 

As someone else mentioned, you're not going to get any sympathy here for pirating software even if it's only to try something before you buy it.

Does beg the question though,  if i had a receipt for my genuinely bought nice Jacket,  do i get to hold onto my new purchase,  Even though it was in a stolen car?  Oh i don't know really, i would like to think so, something nice to wear in Court i suppose 

Repeat again, I have bought GLOBAL and EUROPE LC but If they would decide to delete all the content of the ORBX folder in a future, I will not surely buy any soft of them, because these programs were bought legally. I can understand that if one, for example, such as VECTOR is not legally, they delete it, but why EUROPE and GLOBAL ???. I do not know if this is an abuse of the EULA or not, but I would not buy anything, never. I have bought a incredible list of programs, also ORBX soft and I have no problem to buy more of this company if it is necessary for me and I decided to do it. Nevertheless, I repeat that if someone delete the soft I bought or I can not obtain support for it... I will not buy anything more, never. 

 

And, of course, I say again, I would not re-install windows for this. I would decide not to use and buy again anything of ORBX. They can use other manner to control this and not doing that to the customers.

 

Again, ... I accept and I agree with ... "if you have in your computer an illegal copy of VECTOR, ... vector will be DELETED and also, VECTOR WILL NOT BE UPDATED" but they should not delete the legal software !!!! and, less, induce to re-install windows, which affect to all the computer and the rest of software. They could solve this in other manner. I think They are in a mistake doing this. 

 

Sorry, I don´t try to hurt or say this for disturbing. I understand the situation but customers would be also affected if they, one day, used badly a pirate copy. They should not compare a person which one day could install only a pirate copy, and that is an actual customer, with those have all illegal copies and are not customers. Moreover, if someone is in this situation, it will be a silly idea to buy something, because all the content will be deleted... I think It is a stupid solution. 

Castro, there's no real issue of EULA here (as I said, their reading is, generous, to say the least), you are just dealing with a bunch of people who are (justifiably) ###### at you pirating their software and have taken as much action as they feel they can get away with without actually doing anything that is likely to attract the interest of law enforcement.

 

You got caught, take the hit, man up and move on.

Castro, there's no real issue of EULA here (as I said, their reading is, generous, to say the least), you are just dealing with a bunch of people who are (justifiably) ###### at you pirating their software and have taken as much action as they feel they can get away with without actually doing anything that is likely to attract the interest of law enforcement.

 

You got caught, take the hit, man up and move on.

I'm confused by these comments.  Is there proof he pirated Orbx software?  I can't see above where he admitted to it.

I'm confused by these comments. Is there proof he pirated Orbx software? I can't see above where he admitted to it.

He's revived a nearly week inactive topic on his first post, clearly with a bee in his bonnet, there is no other reasonable explanation. I wasn't convinced by the first post, but given the tone of the following comments, there's more to this.

Thanks Jamie for your comments.  He has been a member here for over a year and decided to finally post something.  Discussions about piracy never go well as members start discussing scenarios and others come back and say no, that won't happen if you do this or that.  A person does not have to admit to piracy but advocating piracy will get members removed from AVSIM just as fast (see the AVSIM Terms of Service).  Therefore, this topic is now locked.