Asus X99 Deluxe

I'm building a new box and have decided to bypass the 5960 in favor of the 4790K Devil's canyon.  Base is 4.0GHz with "turbo" at 4.4GHz so a water cooled o/c is much faster and safer on that chip than the X99 stuff.  I'm using an Asus Maximus VII Hero X97 ROG.Paired with an nVidia 970 GTX 4GB superclocked card, it should be as good or better than anything else.  The extra cores don't help enough to make a difference, IMHO, and the 4790K is lower power and thus easier to cool. We'll see ...

 

I'll report back as soon as I get the beast running.

 

 

Asus X99 Deluxe

 

Thank you.   I'm almost certain there is going to be a 5970X and maybe even a 5990X ... and Asus are likely to announce the Rampage V Black Edition by year end.

 

Cheers, Rob.

My thougts about X99.

After lot of testing the new X99 with 5820k and 5960x on a ASUS RVE.

first the DDR4 mems, i have differnt sets with Hynix and micron chips, 4 x4gb and high density 4 x8gb kits.

Problem to get it to scale from +3000mhz mostly for to low uncore need +4000-4500 uncore.

The memcontroller is one thing and more important with DDR4, feel its kind of weak.

I run my mems 3200mhz cl14 1T at 1.43v 24/7 ( GSkill 4x4gb hynix mfr ) sweetspot performance mem voltage.

With regular DDR4 mems 2400 cl16 the X99 has poor IPC compared to for example 4790k with 2666mhz cl10 mems and

that the 4790k clocks 300mhz higer.

 

For flightsim use a prefer my 5.0ghz 4790k with samsung 2666 cl10 mems.

Do you have any FPS and time between frames data you can share?

 

The float and integer performance is considerably better in a 5960X even at stock clocks (3.5Ghz) vs. a 4.6Ghz 3960X.  My expectation is that this should translate well to P3D ... but you're suggesting that's not the case?

 

Cheers, Rob.

Having now had my MSI X99s SLI plus and I7 5820 combo for the best part of two months I thought it time for an update.

I an not an overclocker or FPS chaser but am simply looking for  smooth performance and sharp visuals. As I reported earlier, I was getting these but initially but with rapid onset OOMs.

I also subsequently experienced frequent  'terrain dll' error messages. The cure was sinmply to turn the autogen down one notch from max. Scenery density has been left at Max giving me great visuals at airports.

I also have Secenery Config editor in reserve but have so far not had to use it ( I have photoscenery for the UK, NL and Germany).  I still use FSFA though it is no longer a necessity.

I get FPS from 18 - 30 with the FPS limit set at 30 but crucially with smooth and blur free graphics even in the worst weather that ASN throws at me.

I was previously looking seriously at the DX10 fixer and even P3D but no longer even consider them

 

This is all at the stock speed of 3.3Ghz. Which brings me to the downside of using a new form factor. I have tried overclocking but the overclocks (whether my own very modest OCs or those provided by OC genie only seem to work for a session or two then at the next boot up I get an 'unstable overclock' message. Booting up can also be a problem - sometimes it can work perfectly but usually it takes 2 or 3 attempts to launch windows. Perhaps in time MSI will release a BIOS update that resolves these issues

 

That being said I am very happy with the performance at stock ( a  vast improvement over my previous i7 920) and though expensive I have not regretted it. I am now set for the next 5 -10 years.

Asus X99 Deluxe

 

Interesting. It was like I could have predicted that response I have just RMA'd a Deluxe as well. Was getting poor overclocks, the thing would boot hang, crashing in the BIOS screen, "overclock failed" when there was no overclock... X99 support threads seem to be chock full of people with similar issues. Not saying they are all bad, but the Deluxe looks like it has a higher failure rate than normal if the noise around it is anything to go by.

 

My supplier is being difficult with the RMA but once sorted I will be looking at other boards. Has anyone had reliability issues with any others? I am wondering if its an issue with boards or with the chipset.

 

 

For flightsim use a prefer my 5.0ghz 4790k with samsung 2666 cl10 mems.

 

This is what I am wishing i had gone for now, in fact I am looking at just buying a Z97 board, RAM and a 4790 and having done with it, put the 5820K and RAM in their boxes until someone does something with the boards and chipset. There will be a lot of X99 mobos coming out, maybe they can really start to make the chips sing.

This is all at the stock speed of 3.3Ghz. Which brings me to the downside of using a new form factor. I have tried overclocking but the overclocks (whether my own very modest OCs or those provided by OC genie only seem to work for a session or two then at the next boot up I get an 'unstable overclock' message. Booting up can also be a problem - sometimes it can work perfectly but usually it takes 2 or 3 attempts to launch windows. Perhaps in time MSI will release a BIOS update that resolves these issues

 

 

Yup same issues with the Deluxe.

i stick with my i7 3770k 4,5 ghz its good enogh to fsx or prepar3d.

Tick Tock, SandyBridge -IvyBridge 4% IvyBridge -Haswell 10% Haswell-Broadwell 3%

The IPC gain in last Intel CPU:s.

 

 

For flightsim use a prefer my 5.0ghz 4790k with samsung 2666 cl10 mems.

 

Westman what's the actual brand/model of these you are using?

 

gb.

Hi

Run 2X4gb from a 4x4 kit , 24/7 @2800mhz 10,12,12,31,1T 1.68v bench 2800mhz cl9 1.95v

Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3 PC21300/2666MHz CL10 4x4GB (CMD16GX3M4A2666C10)

Hi

Run 2X4gb from a 4x4 kit , 24/7 @2800mhz 10,12,12,31,1T 1.68v bench 2800mhz cl9 1.95v

Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR3 PC21300/2666MHz CL10 4x4GB (CMD16GX3M4A2666C10)

 

Ok, thanks,

 

gb.

 

 

Interesting. It was like I could have predicted that response I have just RMA'd a Deluxe as well.

 

ASUS is usually top of the food chain when it comes to quality/stability in motherboards.  I've had repeated "issues" from MSI and Gigabyte in the past.  Although I'm not surprised early X99 based boards are having issues, I am surprised ASUS are.

 

But armed with this info, I'll hold off until I start to see revisions of the board come out and a Black Edition.  The motherboard is such a key element of a system build (far more important than CPU choice IMHO).

 

Cheers, Rob.

Yeah that probably sounds like a good idea! Its just unfortunate ASUS customer service is so bad. I think usually their boards are good so you don't find out how shocking it is.

 

No phone contact available (for EU), 2 days between emails, they do not read what you have written, stock responses, and when you push (with more follow up emails) they suggest things like "buy yourself a new BIOS chip and see if that helps". I thought I just DID buy a new BIOS chip, when I bought your £300 motherboard?? And now I need to do £20 exploratory surgery? Yeah, that sounds fine  <_< 

 

I've put upgrades and things in rigs before but never a complete build like this, and to be honest the whole thing with the Deluxe has just made it a really unpleasant and stressful business. It certainly makes me think twice about buying their stuff, and ASRock too who come under Pegatron as well IIRC. They will almost certainly share customer services.

Having now had my MSI X99s SLI plus and I7 5820 combo for the best part of two months I thought it time for an update.

I an not an overclocker or FPS chaser but am simply looking for  smooth performance and sharp visuals. As I reported earlier, I was getting these but initially but with rapid onset OOMs.

I also subsequently experienced frequent  'terrain dll' error messages. The cure was sinmply to turn the autogen down one notch from max. Scenery density has been left at Max giving me great visuals at airports.

I also have Secenery Config editor in reserve but have so far not had to use it ( I have photoscenery for the UK, NL and Germany).  I still use FSFA though it is no longer a necessity.

I get FPS from 18 - 30 with the FPS limit set at 30 but crucially with smooth and blur free graphics even in the worst weather that ASN throws at me.

I was previously looking seriously at the DX10 fixer and even P3D but no longer even consider them

 

This is all at the stock speed of 3.3Ghz. Which brings me to the downside of using a new form factor. I have tried overclocking but the overclocks (whether my own very modest OCs or those provided by OC genie only seem to work for a session or two then at the next boot up I get an 'unstable overclock' message. Booting up can also be a problem - sometimes it can work perfectly but usually it takes 2 or 3 attempts to launch windows. Perhaps in time MSI will release a BIOS update that resolves these issues

 

That being said I am very happy with the performance at stock ( a  vast improvement over my previous i7 920) and though expensive I have not regretted it. I am now set for the next 5 -10 years.

 

I just got a similar setup. Sounds like it should run pretty well. For me, it's mostly for X-plane but I will be installing FSX to this system as well since I have a library of addons that I still want to use. I think X-plane will be breakfast for a system like this; especially since I added a GTX 980 superclocked ACX2.0 to the mix.