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That you're looking at the NGX I assume you're thinking FSX as your sim platform. A couple of things to consider.

 

1- FSX is a processor killer. The i5 is underpowered for an FSX rig. Invest a few more £ and upgrade to an i7 processor.

 

2- FSX is more stable when installed on a separate hard drive so a second 1T is best.

 

3- FSX works best with nVidia chipset cards so that's another must have upgrade.

 

4- Off the shelf systems rely on value components to keep the cost down. FSX can push an OCd system pretty aggressively and a value or budget spec'd system isn't capable of handling the stress. Components fail too early or fail to provide the performance you're looking for i.e. reasonable graphics content and smooth performance.

 

A custom build is more the standard and you can even build one yourself if you are moderately mechanically inclined. There are lots of forum listing on AVSIM that can guide you through the process and many hobbyists that would be glad to give you the benefit of their experience. I'm on my fourth FSX build and my system handles pretty much everything I throw at it.

 

Good luck

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The i7 has no performance affect on FSX the extra cache has next to no affect and FSX cant use the threads so unless you are doing some crazy multi tasking or video editing there is no point.


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Hi huts thanks for the response but in 14 and don't know a alful lot about computers and not looking but build a pc

So if anyone has any pc's that give off 20-30fps that would be great thanks

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That second link would be fine with a gtx 770 in it - that AMD video card is junk

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Hi huts thanks for the response but in 14 and don't know a alful lot about computers and not looking but build a pc

So if anyone has any pc's that give off 20-30fps that would be great thanks

Type "K" Intel CPU (i5 is good enough for FSX), a good basic MB (Asus Z97A would be my choice), 2 x 4gig ram (1600 or better), GTX x70 or better (4g is my choice) and a mild overclock will give you your 20-30 FPS, no problem. Cheaper to build yourself or give these specs to whom ever you buy from as a starting point.

Regards,

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Ok I will give that a try and do you know how much this will cost thanks

I don't know too much about UK prices and availability, but you were pretty close with the Palicomp rig in your post #3, except that I would try to go with the Asus Z98-A and definitely get rid of that 1g HD7770 and go with a GTX970 with minimum 2g VRAM.

Overclock that 4690k and let it loose with a 4gig GTX970 and it will handle FSX + Addons very well.

 

Regards,

 

P.S. As previously suggested, it would be good if you could also spring for a second HD.

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I looked at this computer and wonded how many fps I would get in the pmdg ngx cockpit at uk2000 airports mainly East Midlands with active sky

 

http://www.palicomp.co.uk/gaming-pcs/INTEL-Haswell-i5-Commander.html

I get 35-45 FPS with my setup (Look at my profile for specs). Adding the GTX980 only gave me a boost of a few fps

Addons used

PMDG 777,NGX

FTX Global

FSDT airports,Flytampa,Flightbeam all atleast in the 30's FPS's

This is with a Thunderstorm with full overcast selected.

Rex 4 Clouds

Mytraffic 2013

And almost every slider to the right with the exception of traffic which is set at 25%, and Autogen that is set at dense.

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10-15 FPS

 

11-16 FPS

 

Foolish comments.... anyone who has been uysing FSX for a long time knows that frame rates are related to a lot more things than just hardware alone.

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Foolish comments....

 

We do know however based on hardware and software given by the OP a certain range of performance and I would say I would be pretty darn close in my predicted range of FPS. Those were meant to serve as a guide, not a etched-in-stone range.

 

I wonder if I had said 0-1000 FPS if I would have been less foolish?

 

Oh wise one, what performance would he most likely see then?

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Bottom line is, a balanced system will give you all you need to enjoy FSX, PMDG a/c and high quality airport addons. I am still on an IB i5 with a modest overclock, coupled with a half decent Nvidia based graphics card with some decent VRAM and I get a 30FPS performance with PMDG 777 at FSDT CYVR on a rainy day and VOX ATC. Sure, the odd time if you face the wrong way when it's busy with some AI around, I will get a little dip now and again down to 25FPS, but with sensibly tweaked cfg and NI setup, inc 1/2 vsync, I get a smooth good performance.

 

I am no computer guru, but I trust what I have learned from sometimes bitter experience, you can have the best CPU on the market, overclocked to the limit and if you put it with the wrong accompanying components, such as a low end, low VRAM graphics card, you will be disappointed. Similarly you will be disappointed if you go buy a GTX980 Ti and stick it with a low end, unclocked CPU.

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With brand new parts (including monitor, case etc) - 1500 USD for a really really nice one.  You could spend 11-1200 for a pretty decent one...  could get you 20 fps with addons and weather and addon scenery,

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It is not only about FPS - in DX10, 20 is perfectly smooth, and 15 for shorter periods is ok. You should also consider more or less blurred landscapes, i.e texture filling, and this is where a multi core CPU makes a difference. I' m still on an old oc'ed 6-core AMD, and while FPS not is exceptional, I get a remarkably sharp non-blurred picture. And yes, all 6 core quite often are at 100% - not only during launch of sim or panning.

BR

Anders

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Forget about better hardware. I am on a i5 3570k at 4.4Ghz. I was running on a GTX660 and upgraded to the GTX970. After 2 months of trials, the smoothest expirience is with no autogen.

So, because I got tired of thinking what FPS I would get in a certain airport and given the fact that even 1 stutter on final ruins all the feeling of landing, I choose to fly with no autogen. When you are 1000 feet high it seems much better too...if you get used to it, its the best 'tweak' ever...let alone that you can 'feel' the airplane much better..very important for good landings.

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What is your budget?  Those two are pretty much junk, altho the i7 one is a lot better than the first which is totally unsuitable

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