April 23, 201511 yr Ok i am running P3d 2.4 on windows 7 64bit. I installed the hawker as Admin, i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling 3 times and every time same result. The aircraft loads and then the FPS start droping gradually but at the same time quickly from 30 - 0.6 fps , I cant figure it out. No weather loaded, i am running p3d at medium graphics settings im not a big viusals junkie, it doesnt feel like the sim itself is causing the problem I have carenados previous Citation installed and that performs perfectly, Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you again
April 23, 201511 yr Did you delete the proline21.cab file in the main gauges folder then reinstall? Maybe that's related.... I've had weird fps issues with the PL21 a few times so far. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 23, 201511 yr I've got the same issue. The Hawker FPS is about half of that of their Citation. I've uninstalled and reinstalled at least 4 times, as well as reinstalling after deleting the proline21.cab. Per their FAQ they suggest turning off the high definition VC. Results are the same. I get all the gauges and have no problems with setting the Nav1 and ADF, and making a short flight with ILS landing. But the framerate drop over Seattle makes the plane unflyable. I'm observing a kind of pulsing or stuttering in FPS every fourth cycle. At times I can get up to 17 FPS, only to have it drop to 5 or 7, then back up. Its as if there is a gauge cycling off and on. I also noticed that I can pan freely in a cold and dark state, but once I'm ready to taxi I get the stuttering. I have a support ticket open with Carenado and have been updating them with my observations. Hate to change my scenery settings just for one aircraft. CT5 - what kind of video card do you have? You may want to file a support ticket with them - the more, the merrier.
April 23, 201511 yr Author i have a GTX780ti sandybridge 2600k at 4.8ghz thank you for your inputs ill give it a go
April 24, 201511 yr Author OK, I tried deleting the proline21.cab file and did a re-install, no difference..... So i again loaded the aircraft.....fps starts dropping to 0.6, 0.3 and out of frustration, i start clicking all my mouse buttons, i start hitting the 2d pop up gauges. pressing and clicking, pressing and clicking etc. Well i pulled up the engine/navigation display 2d popup (shift+ 2) and i clicked one of the black buttons on the left side and whoa-la! The sim comes out of the funk that its in and fps return to normal parameters. I get actually very good performace. this experience has been very strange, but im glad i am now able to use the aircraft. Big thank you to those who responded. I hope this finding may help someone else. Take care
April 24, 201511 yr Moderator Um, that's "voila" just for those who might be curious... B) I'm curious just what that "black button" actually does though? Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
April 24, 201511 yr From now on, we should be referring to it as THE black button and never even think about touching it. :mellow: ^_^ Seriously, that's a weird issue indeed but thanks to the OP for posting the solution.
April 24, 201511 yr I tried THE black button, but without success. I'd be curious to know WHICH black button does the trick so I can try it again and if anyone else had had success with THE black button approach. --WH
April 24, 201511 yr I tried THE black button, but without success. I'd be curious to know WHICH black button does the trick so I can try it again and if anyone else had had success with THE black button approach. --WH Greetings all, I am curious as well. I sent a request to the Carenado team for support on this issue. I even tried turning the gauge resolution down and this did not resolve. What happens to me is the Hawker loads fine. FPS are 20 or better. That is normal for my set up. Then as soon as i turn on the battery the frames drasticly drop to 0.6. I tried clicking around the panel as mentioned in this post, but no joy. Any other ideas people have to resolve would be fantastic. I have had good success with Carenado support. What they come back with I will share here as well. Kevin
April 24, 201511 yr Hello All, again with FPS issues. I will definitely pass on this airplane. Thanks for the heads up! Jason
April 24, 201511 yr Carenado has recommended I reinstall FSX SP2. Unfortunately, I'm not going to do that since I'm not having any framerate issues with any other of my addon a/c and the recommendation is somewhat vague rather than something specific causing the framerate problems. I'd be willing to wager that the Proline21 gauges are consuming too much processing and affecting the sim. Which explains why things are smooth before starting the aircraft. I can load the aircraft, set the Nav1, ADF, CRS and set a route. I can fly and land (somewhat chopping however with all the stuttering). And I can also see the sim dropping to low framerate every fourth second or so. Unfortunately, there is no alternative for the gauges to test this out. --WH
April 24, 201511 yr Commercial Member Well, they're displaying the default FS GPS map on each screen. I imagine that can be a frame rate hit. Ed Wilson Mindstar AviationMy Playland - I69
April 24, 201511 yr Carenado has recommended I reinstall FSX SP2. Unfortunately, I'm not going to do that since I'm not having any framerate issues with any other of my addon a/c and the recommendation is somewhat vague rather than something specific causing the framerate problems. I'd be willing to wager that the Proline21 gauges are consuming too much processing and affecting the sim. Which explains why things are smooth before starting the aircraft. I can load the aircraft, set the Nav1, ADF, CRS and set a route. I can fly and land (somewhat chopping however with all the stuttering). And I can also see the sim dropping to low framerate every fourth second or so. Unfortunately, there is no alternative for the gauges to test this out. --WH Carenado told me as well to reinstall SP2. I went to unistall and it says its not installed. But when I went to install SP2 it says it is installed and no updates were made. Does anyone have some tips on how I can unistall/installl SP2? Also, I don't seem to have the Proline21 guage in my gauges folder to remove. Anyone else experience this. I am starting to wonder if it is time for a fresh install of FSX... What a pain in the.....that would be...LOL. Thank you... Kevin
April 24, 201511 yr Look for Proline21.cab. If its not in your gauge folder, then just reinstall the Hawker "as administrator" and see if it shows up.
April 26, 201511 yr I got it working and this thing is amazing! My FSX setup was due for a clean install. So I uninstalled everything then reinstalled only what I really use. Doing so was the key for me. I just did a flight with the Hawker and it is smooth. Looks and sounds great. True not everyone wants to do a reinstall of FSX. But trust me it's good to due every now and then. So for those running into issues this might be a good time to do aspiring cleaning of your FSX setup. Kevin
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