Like many others it's anerving to have crap showing up on my system selling another OS without my approval.

 

It's "selling" you a free update to their own product which you are actively using. As stupid as it sounds, it's understandable. All of us here have a decent understanding of computers and are aware of when new versions of Windows are released, but there's also the bigger majority of people that don't have a clue when new versions are out. The latter is likely the target audience of that notification

 

 

Microsoft have "improved" (their words) the icon set once again in Windows 10

 

See if you can spot the improvement folks. LOL

 

Top to bottom: Windows 8.1 icons, old Windows 10 icons, new Windows 10 icons.

 

I think that, somewhere between Win7 and the latest Win10 Microsoft's graphic design team left the building

 

That middle row of icons was just bad. The latest set came with Build 10122 of the Preview and is actually fairly nice when in use. They're just modern renditions of the Vista/7 era icons. Windows 8 still had the Vista/7 icon set, so after 8+ years of the same icons, it's a nice change IMO. The real folder icons are actually a bit different than the comparison. Here's a screenshot directly from File Explorer:

 

Additionally, if you're viewing the really tiny versions (16x16), they look like this:

Here are a few screenshots I just took. Again, I am running on a virtual machine.

 

 

This is what the "new" Windows Updates looks like:

 

 

These are the "advanced options":

 

As you can see, there is no longer an option to turn off updates:

 

 

 

This is interesting. Apparently updates can now be downloaded P2P:

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is something that was a problem in Windows 8, and it returns in Windows 10. Two control panels. Why? Microsoft seems confused. They don't know which Control Panel to use. In Windows 10, more and more things were moved from the good ol' Control Panel to the "new" "Metro-style" settings, which is very simplified. Control Panel only controls a few other things now. A lot of settings that you see on the old Control Panel automatically open on the "new" "Metro-style" Settings app, when you click on them:

 

 

 

 

New clock:

 

 

 

 

This is how you will be able to revert back to Windows 7 or 8.1. It is also how you can get to the advanced boot options (Used to be F8 during boot), and how you can do a fresh install:

 

 

 

Thank you very much, Diego for this pearler of an eye-opener of what Microsoft is proposing to do.

 

I wonder if they have been taking lessons from one of their 'partners', Google aka Android, because just as Google have locked absolutely useless Apps in the Android OS that one cannot get rid of, it seems that MS are going down the same road of taking away control on what, we, the End-User wants downloading and installing, as is the case at present with W7, or not.

 

Pass!

I would reiterate, this seams to be only feature in W10 Home, so get the pro version. Plus, one thing I would point out, I wonder if hardly anyone around here actually verifies each update, and simple clicks install and then reboots? For a lot of people, they just leave it at download and install automatically, so realistically, not a lot has changed. You will be able to still remove updates after they have installed as well. Though, yes this is after the fact.

 

So, I really question, will anyone complaining about this actually be affected to how they work now? I.e check each update before they install?

 

I'm not sure that Microsoft is a "partner" of Google, they are rivals in some areas. And Android is a product from Google which is open source, however it does have proprietary components. This is then taken by developers, such as phone manufactures, and they can, and often do, install their own proprietary applications in to the phone. You are more then welcome to replace your Android OS on your phone, with any other build Android Rom. I am not running the Samsung Android OS on my Samsung phone. Android, for the most part, is open source as well

So, I really question, will anyone complaining about this actually be affected to how they work now? I.e check each update before they install?

 

I don't check what each "Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems" do, but I DO check the optional updates, that sometimes includes Nvidia drivers, sound drivers, and even drivers for my joystick. I don't like these being managed by Windows Updates, and I certainly don't want them downloaded automatically

 

AFAIK, Windows 10 doesn't have "optional" updates anymore

Do we have this confirmed? I'm not stating we don't, but I am asking do we know this 100%. I can see the issue here, and I'm not saying you're wrong, but seeking clarification. Thus far I've not found an answer

 

I know they certainly have two streams, updates and features, but if there is a third for drivers, and other optional like .NET, or if they come under features.

 

There is a work around as stated, use Pro. I'm not saying that's the best, but there it's there. That being said, I've never had an nVidia update from windows update. But maybe because the nVidia app does it before windows update so it never shows

This is something that was a problem in Windows 8, and it returns in Windows 10. Two control panels. Why? Microsoft seems confused. They don't know which Control Panel to use. In Windows 10, more and more things were moved from the good ol' Control Panel to the "new" "Metro-style" settings, which is very simplified. Control Panel only controls a few other things now. A lot of settings that you see on the old Control Panel automatically open on the "new" "Metro-style" Settings app, when you click on them:

 

For what it's worth, this is a Preview (ie. unfinished). The Settings app barely had anything in its beginning (5 or so months ago). Over time, they've implemented quite a lot of the functionality of Control Panel. I suspect they are either going to completely recreate most, if not all Control Panel options in the Settings App and remove Control Panel, or just have the two available as a choice (which would be more important for tablet/phone users, as the current one is not very touch-friendly). In Windows 8, they had a simplified basic settings menu that was geared more towards those with tablets, though it still had some useful things for desktop users. Either way, there's not really a problem with this. People complain that they don't do enough with each new version. They actually try to do a lot for once to modernize Windows, and everyone complains. I don't understand. Not that they're an amazing company, but are they just not allowed to have a decent product or go by without a bunch of drama? It seems like mindless bashing of anything or any company these days is the new big thing.

 

Also, the term is Universal App. The term Metro hasn't been used since I think the early days of 8, then they switched to calling them Modern Apps (I believe because of a lawsuit by some company).

 

 

There is a work around as stated, use Pro

 

Chris, If you have Win7 home premium or any version below that the free upgrade will only update you to the equivalent W10 version, you do not have a choice of versions.

 

If you need Pro to escape from having your drivers updated against your wishes then you will need to buy it.

The windows update Nvidia drivers are not normally current, would you be happy for instance being forced to use a driver that lost the PAPI lights as a recent NV driver did in P3D ?

A point you make there HughesMDflyer4 is true for Apple. The amount of people I've heard state that Apple products are more secure then Windows is worrying high. But someone only needs to monitor the full disclosure lists to see how horrendous their security practices are.

 

Glynn, the fact that you miss out on the free upgrade because you wanr pro instead of home, is no worse off then buying W10, like you would have any other Windows version. You're complaining about the fact that they have changed something in W10 home. Don't like it? Buy pro, don't upgrade, or upgrade and cope with it. You're complaining about something that you're getting FOR FREE. Sorry, but I'm a bit lost on the fact that you're complaining about a new feature in something that is free, or if you don't then you buy it......

 

Also, you can downgrade drivers and we need confirmation that you can still remove individual updates from W10 Home. Until we know otherwise, we can take an educated guess that yes, you can remove individual updates

Not allowing deselecting optional updates is a feature now ? Wow

 

Chris, Nothing is free, trust me on that

I don't want Pro, what I want is at least what I have with Win7 Home premium anything else is not an upgrade.

For me Win7 is purely a platform on which to run FSX/P3D  neither of which are going to get any better under Windows 10 unless P3D moves to DX12

Then don't upgrade. Simple

 

 

Then don't upgrade. Simple

 

 

Already have on one machine, that's why I am less than thrilled by where MS are headed with W10

 

 

You are more then welcome to replace your Android OS on your phone, with any other build Android Rom. I am not running the Samsung Android OS on my Samsung phone. Android,

That is something I have been seeking to do for ages but do not have the technical know-how how to get rid of that original Samsung Android OS. And virtually every mobile phone repair shop I have talked to, that claim they cam 'unlock' mobile phones, have no clue what I am talking about, so I have given up and patiently put up with the rubbish apps that as you claim, manufacturers of mobile smartphones install by default, 99.9% of which I will rarely look let alone use, but that still eat up memory.

 

 

I don't check what each "Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems" do, but I DO check the optional updates, that sometimes includes Nvidia drivers, sound drivers, and even drivers for my joystick. I don't like these being managed by Windows Updates, and I certainly don't want them downloaded automatically

Precisely what I too do.

Let me just say vc10man the first time is nerve wrecking, but it's pretty easy. Best place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/ The Samsung phones are very easy to put another OS on. They've made it easy, unlike some manufactures. Check that site for what Rom you like the look of, each has different goals.

 

This guide, while is specifically deals with Cyanogen and Galaxy S4, is a good guide. And you can use it for any rom basically, just replace the Cyanogen rom with any other you fancy. Essentially you root the phone, install Clockwork Recovery, then install the Rom. Pretty easy

 

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jflte

Thanks a bundle, for that, Chris. At last, I've found someone with knowledge to root-kit a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2 Plus GT-S7500.