Diego, do you know of a link to download that 'fast' new version (post #67?

Go into Windows Updates, Advanced Settings, and near the bottom there's an option called "Choose how preview builds are installed". Change the drop down box to "fast". By default it's on "slow".

 

 

 

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MORE information released by Microsoft.

 

 

Before, I thought that everyone had to "upgrade-install" from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10. But now, it looks like MS is going to allow clean installations of W10. Perfect!

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2931492/windows-10-upgrade-will-allow-clean-installs-on-the-same-device-for-free.html#tk.fb_pc

 

(A Microsoft employee answered on Twitter: https://twitter.com/GabeAul/status/605987336392810496)

 

 

 

So now, the only thing bothering me about W10 are the updates and that's it. The offer is looking great.

Edited June 4, 201511 yr by linux731

 

 

If you upgrade and do not format then it will leave you're files

 

Thanks Chris. When I upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 8, it basically did what your talking about. However, it saved my pictures and documents under something called Old Windows (that's not the right wording, but you get the picture). I could go into those files and find my pictures, etc.

 

But, I did have to reinstall FSX. At the time, not too many addon's.

 

If this is the same way, I will need to uninstall P3D so that I pass the license back to LM. Otherwise, I'll not be able to reinstall without a bit of a hassle requesting from LM.

 

Anyway, that's the reason I ask. I think to be safe, I'll need to uninstall unless someone knows differently...

 

 

Go into Windows Updates, Advanced Settings

Which Windows Updates-Advanced Settings? In the Control Panel or on the MS website?

Which Windows Updates-Advanced Settings? In the Control Panel or on the MS website?

The one on the "new" Settings program.

From what I can tell reading all of this (and I thought I saw it in one other post), there is no "clean install" of this free WinX. If you do not purchase it at some future date, or buy it ona new machine, the only choice you have is to let MS upgrade your Win7/Win8 to WinX.

 

 

I was a bit confused for a while.. I was wondering what WinX was, then I realised that it was meant to indicate Windows10, which is what the whole world was calling it.

 

Mmm, FSX was always called FSX, I do nor recall anyone calling it FS10. Yup, FS2004 is also known as FS9.

 

Sorry for me being pedantic & a bit confused between WinX & Windows 10.

I found this..

For those not taking advantage of the free upgrade.

 

Windows 10 will be available as a free download for a year after its initial release for users of Windows 7 and Windows 8. Users who don’t qualify for the free update will be able to purchase the software.

On June 1, Microsoft told CNET that Windows 10 will be priced similarly to its predecessor. That means prices will run from $110 for the Windows 10 Home package to $199 for Windows 10 Pro. A Windows 10 Pro Pack will let users upgrade from Home to Pro for $99.

 

The company has said Windows 7 and Windows 8 users can reserve an upgrade from a notification icon in their task bar. Windows 10 files will be downloaded automatically by July 29th.

 

Who would need the paid version of Windows 10? Probably those with an older XP or Vista machine, anyone who doesn't take advantage of the one-year upgrade window, or hobbyists who like to build their own PCs.

The initial release of Windows 10 will be limited to PCs and tablets. A Windows 10 upgrade for Windows Phone 8.1 devices will vary by phone makers and carriers.

Those on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 can reserve an upgrade via a prompt that should appear in the PC's taskbar. Click "Reserve your free upgrade" when it appears, add an email for confirmation, and you're all set. When it's ready, the upgrade will require 3GB of space.

 

As previously announced, upgrades from Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 are free for the first year of availability. Windows 7 Starter, Home Basic, Home Premium, and Windows 8/8.1 users will receive Windows 10 Home. Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate, and Windows 8.1 Pro users will receive Windows 10 Pro. Enterprise users get nothing, because upgrading is usually taken care of as part of their license agreement anyway.

 

Feature deprecation section

• If you have Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8 Pro with Media Center, or Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center and you install Windows 10, Windows Media Center will be removed.
• Watching DVDs requires separate playback software
• Windows 7 desktop gadgets will be removed as part of installing Windows 10.
• Windows 10 Home users will have updates from Windows Update automatically available. Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise users will have the ability to defer updates.
• Solitaire, Minesweeper, and Hearts Games that come pre-installed on Windows 7 will be removed as part of installing the Windows 10 upgrade. Microsoft has released our version of Solitaire and Minesweeper called the “Microsoft Solitaire Collection” and “Microsoft Minesweeper.”
• If you have a USB floppy drive, you will need to download the latest driver from Windows Update or from the manufacturer's website.
• If you have Windows Live Essentials installed on your system, the OneDrive application is removed and replaced with the inbox version of OneDrive.

Windows 7*

From Edition To Edition Windows 7 Starter Windows 10 Home Windows 7 Home Basic Windows 7 Home Premium Windows 7 Professional Windows 10 Pro Windows 7 Ultimate

Windows 8**

From Edition To Edition Windows Phone 8.1**** Windows 10 Mobile Windows 8.1*** Windows 10 Home Windows 8.1 Pro Windows 10 Pro Windows 8.1 Pro for Students

*Must be running the latest version of Windows 7 (Service Pack 1) to receive the free upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update.

**Must be running the latest version of Windows 8 (Windows 8.1 Update) to receive the free upgrade to Windows 10 via Windows Update.

*** Also applies to Windows 8.1 country specific editions, Windows 8.1 Single Language, Windows 8.1 with Bing.

****The availability of Windows 10 upgrade for Windows Phone 8.1 devices may vary by OEM, mobile operator or carrier.

“N” and “KN” editions follow the upgrade path of the parent edition (e.g., Windows 7 Professional N upgrades to Windows 10 Pro).

Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer.

 

 

 

That being said, does everyone seem to think that letting MS upgrade your machine is safe enough? Or is there a mindset up here that it is better left alone? I

 

Gary I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, since MS writes the installer it will be them who upgrade your machine. Or do you mean running an upgrade vs a clean installer? The upgrade has been greatly improved in recently years. I also was a big advocate for clean installs but on my last two work laptops I performed an upgrade from W7 to W8 and I can't say I noticed any problems.

 

However, that being said, you don't lose anything if you run the upgrade. If it turns out you do have problems, then you can run a clean install. Since you would do it anyway, you don't lose anything trying the upgrade. I would advise against running an OS after it's support has finished, however. You are leaving you're self wide open to new attack vectors

So, I'm wondering as to why we should reserve the update, if we are going to automatically (if our update setting are set that way) get the update on the 29th July anyway?

Those who don't reserve will pay for it as you normally would.

The one on the "new" Settings program.

Still none the wiser. 'new' Settings? I'm looking to a link to download the Preview.

Those who don't reserve will pay for it as you normally would.

But haven't MS stated publicly that this would be a FREE upgrade?

Yes but not to the whole world and his dog

Yup, only free, as said & stated before, for those with legal versions of the various editions of Windows 7  & 8, for those what would like to upgrade during the first 12 months after release.

 

Those who don't reserve will pay for it as you normally would.

Only if you do not upgrade during the first 12 months.

 

So, my question still is as to why reserve it, if we going to get it anyway on the 29th July?

 

linux731, on 04 Jun 2015 - 05:12 AM, said:

The one on the "new" Settings program.

Still none the wiser. 'new' Settings? I'm looking to a link to download the Preview.

 

VC10man, Methinks that 'new' settings is there if you already have an older version of the preview.

Still none the wiser. 'new' Settings? I'm looking to a link to download the Preview.

But haven't MS stated publicly that this would be a FREE upgrade?

Sorry Rick, I thought you HAD the preview and were looking to change the settings.

 

You can download the preview here: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso

I was never asked for the serial key, so I dont think you need it.

 

Gary I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, since MS writes the installer it will be them who upgrade your machine. Or do you mean running an upgrade vs a clean installer? The upgrade has been greatly improved in recently years. I also was a big advocate for clean installs but on my last two work laptops I performed an upgrade from W7 to W8 and I can't say I noticed any problems.

 

However, that being said, you don't lose anything if you run the upgrade. If it turns out you do have problems, then you can run a clean install. Since you would do it anyway, you don't lose anything trying the upgrade. I would advise against running an OS after it's support has finished, however. You are leaving you're self wide open to new attack vectors

 

A MS developer announced on Twitter that clean installs were going to be possible. He said an ISO and the download will always be available, however he didn't mention what happens if you change a component in your computer, for example the motherboard. I assume the license key is forever changed to a W10 one, and it should work fine.

 

Take a look at post #76 http://forum.avsim.net/topic/469540-windows-10-reservations-now-available-for-win-7-and-8-users/?p=3249014

Thanks for that, Diego.

Gary I'm not quite sure what you mean by that, since MS writes the installer it will be them who upgrade your machine. Or do you mean running an upgrade vs a clean installer? The upgrade has been greatly improved in recently years. I also was a big advocate for clean installs but on my last two work laptops I performed an upgrade from W7 to W8 and I can't say I noticed any problems.

 

However, that being said, you don't lose anything if you run the upgrade. If it turns out you do have problems, then you can run a clean install. Since you would do it anyway, you don't lose anything trying the upgrade. I would advise against running an OS after it's support has finished, however. You are leaving you're self wide open to new attack vectors

At this time, I cannot afford to uninstall and re-install everything on my computer. Especially FSX (now FSX SE) and the myriad add-ons that I just now am completely re-installing after switching to SE. It has gotten to the point where I can't enjoy flying anymore because I am constantly installing, uninstalling, fixing or upgrading things.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is I am reaching a point where I am going to veg out and just start enjoying this stuff without these constant hassles. People up here are still running FS9, so... Maybe in a year or two, if I can afford a new machine with the "latest and greatest OS" on it, I might take the plunge. If WinX could be updated without that trouble, if everything else stayed the same, it might work. But that will not be the case. So I guess I'll sit here and read all about the new OS and how it's working, and then go out and fly my turbine Duke around a bit, or do a trans-Atlantic hop in my PMDG 777.

And that's a sensible approach Gary. Let the early adopters put up with any pain, and then it will be easy for you later