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Which pushback method do you use? GSX or PMDG's?

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I agree that GSX is a superior push back option, and loved it when I had it installed... but ... it still conflicts with EZDOC.  Even if you set up GSX with different hotkeys to avoid the interference, EZDOC still gets randomly hammered and stops working completely with GSX usage.  I tried many things to fix the problems, but couldn't avoid the random EZDOC dropouts.  Without GSX installed, EZDOC works flawlessly for me.

 

If anyone knows a foolproof fix to allow full compatibility, please let me know.  EZDOC views are a far more important feature for me than GSX, so for now, I've opted to forego reinstalling GSX.

 

Just wanted the OP to know that GSX is a superior push back utility, but that there are still problems with EZDOC.

 

Very simple to fix.  

 

1 Do your pushback with GSX ( because this is when it happens)

 

2 After the pushback, when the GSX person says to have a nice flight, or whatever he says, just open the GSX menu with you hotkey and immediately close it again. 

 

3. To double check that this worked, just use your arrow keys to see if you can move your image back and forth with Ezdok, which shows EZdok is back to normal.

 

I make this part of my pre=taxi check .  

 

 

 

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  • GSX, IMO without a doubt. Right on the taxi line every time.

  • GSX for sure.  PMDG's method serves well if you don't have GSX

  • If you use the STRG + F12 (SHIFT + F) version, just press the combination twice again and EZDOK is working again. I know it's a bit annoying, but for me the only solution so far. 

If you use the STRG + F12 (SHIFT + F) version, just press the combination twice again and EZDOK is working again. I know it's a bit annoying, but for me the only solution so far. 

 

Thanks, Phil.  I was aware of that "trick" from reading the forums, but unfortunately it only works some of the time.  Hopefully one or the other developer will make the necessary changes to eliminate the conflict.

Very simple to fix.  

 

1 Do your pushback with GSX ( because this is when it happens)

 

2 After the pushback, when the GSX person says to have a nice flight, or whatever he says, just open the GSX menu with you hotkey and immediately close it again. 

 

3. To double check that this worked, just use your arrow keys to see if you can move your image back and forth with Ezdok, which shows EZdok is back to normal.

 

I make this part of my pre=taxi check .  

 

Thanks for that tip, Bob.  I'll definitely give it a check after reinstalling GSX.

 

And one additional note based on your comment above, "because this is when it happens" - The issue I experience seems to be connected to use of the FSX/P3D ATC window and/or the GSX window.  For example, when taking a high speed taxiway off an active after landing I contact ATC for the gate assignment, and after closing the ATC window, EZDOC has quit working.  No matter how many times I then cycle the GSX window or ATC window after that, EZDOC remains failed.  Perplexing and frustrating for sure, but I am confident a fix will come along.


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Thanks, Phil.  I was aware of that "trick" from reading the forums, but unfortunately it only works some of the time.  Hopefully one or the other developer will make the necessary changes to eliminate the conflict.

 

Thanks for that tip, Bob.  I'll definitely give it a check after reinstalling GSX.

 

And one additional note based on your comment above, "because this is when it happens" - The issue I experience seems to be connected to use of the FSX/P3D ATC window and/or the GSX window.  For example, when taking a high speed taxiway off an active after landing I contact ATC for the gate assignment, and after closing the ATC window, EZDOC has quit working.  No matter how many times I then cycle the GSX window or ATC window after that, EZDOC remains failed.  Perplexing and frustrating for sure, but I am confident a fix will come along.

 

 

I use Pro ATC for ATC so don't run into that issue. Sounds like maybe a key assignment conflict of some kind.

 

 

 

I use Pro ATC for ATC so don't run into that issue. Sounds like maybe a key assignment conflict of some kind.

 

I may give ProATC a try, Bob.  Thanks again for contributing.


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Seems like GSX is a must have add-on. Is it fully compatible with P3D v3?

 

From my understanding, GSX is included with all FSDT and Flightbeam airports if you purchase them right? But if you want to be able to use GSX globally with non FSDT/FB airports, then you need to purchase a full copy?

 

I also notice strange things in EZDOK as well, but I never knew the problem was due to a conflict with GSX.

 

Sometimes when I'm using SHIFT+F1, etc to change my views using EZDOK, it'll work most of the time but sometimes it wont work at all and I end up having to restart P3D.

 

I am using the latest EZDOK 1.18.7 btw. Whatever the issue is, I hope it gets fix. I can't fly without this add-on. Also when switching to an external cam in EZDOK, my pilots are missing. But if I use the built-in external spot camera, then it works. Quite annoying since I like to have the pilots there when taking screenshots. So I have to use the spot camera to do this.

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From my understanding, GSX is included with all FSDT and Flightbeam airports if you purchase them right? But if you want to be able to use GSX globally with non FSDT/FB airports, then you need to purchase a full copy?

 

 

No its not included, ( you need  to download  the trial version) if  you download the trial version of  gsx  it  will work on all your  fsdt  airports  and  3  default  airports  than if  you  like it  than you  can unlock the trial version by  purchasing the full product  which in turn will  work on all airports.   This is mentioned on the   main gsx  product page 

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What are the 3 default airports?

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What are the 3 default airports?

A simple  search  at the gsx forum would  have  solved your issue  but  since I had  a  spare minute :Tounge:  here  are  the 3  liml   eddm   ksfo  more  answer  are found  in the gsx  forum if  you have  any more.  Just download the trial version to see  if  it  will work on your  system since  you will get  the gsx  pdf   as well

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Peter kelberg

I find that the PMDG pushback is not very flexible as to distance.  If you select left or right, the distance defaults to 396 feet and can't be changed.  I use GSX almost exclusively.

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Personally I'm looking forward to Ultimate Ground Crew X from Bryan York, the same guy who's behind FS2Crew.

 

It  should be  good  but  it  will be only  be  a push back  etc  not  catering  or  de icing  or  refuelling  etc  as per  gsx has

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Peter kelberg

No, that's true but looking at the topic what the OP asked about was pushback and not catering and deicing.

 

I have GSX myself but stopped using it after having decided to spend more time on actual flying rather than looking at animated baggage loaders :wink:

No, that's true but looking at the topic what the OP asked about was pushback and not catering and deicing.

 

I have GSX myself but stopped using it after having decided to spend more time on actual flying rather than looking at animated baggage loaders :wink:

 

True  but the catering  services etc  are extra bonus  and there is no need  to use  them  if  you don't  want  to, just use  the push back option. :smile:

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I agree that GSX is a superior push back option, and loved it when I had it installed... but ... it still conflicts with EZDOC.  Even if you set up GSX with different hotkeys to avoid the interference, EZDOC still gets randomly hammered and stops working completely with GSX usage.  I tried many things to fix the problems, but couldn't avoid the random EZDOC dropouts.  Without GSX installed, EZDOC works flawlessly for me.

 

If anyone knows a foolproof fix to allow full compatibility, please let me know.  EZDOC views are a far more important feature for me than GSX, so for now, I've opted to forego reinstalling GSX.

 

Just wanted the OP to know that GSX is a superior push back utility, but that there are still problems with EZDOC.

Reassign GSX to the Caps_Lock key instead of the Shift-F12 key, then you won't have an issue with EZDOK. Note the key assignment is in the Couatl key mapping menu not  GSX

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True  but the catering  services etc  are extra bonus  and there is no need  to use  them  if  you don't  want  to, just use  the push back option. :smile:

 

Yes, that's true but when using GSX being the perfectionist I am I always feel the need to adjust the pushback truck so it doesn't interfere with the airport scenery which is the case at some airports/gates and since I have quite a number of airports installed and the majority of them very large ones that becomes a very time-consuming job.

 

I do think GSX is a great addon though although I've chosen not to use it for now.

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