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Windows 10 Upgrade Or Stay with Widows 7 64bit?

 

I am running FSX and FSX-SE.

 

So should I stay or should I GO 4 it?

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I performed the upgrade and had zero problems with FSX:SE or any addons (i have an insane number of addons).

 

Overall system performance (Windows) is better as well.

 

I've only read about one person who had a problem with the conversion, but if you're concerned about that you can download the full installer to a thumb drive or ISO to burn it to a DVD and run the complete install rather than the conversion.

 

Best of l=luck!

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Has not this discussion been flogged to death  discussed before?

(on this forum, the FS2004 forum, the Windows 10 forum right here on AVSIM?),

:p0302: :t0152:

 

Simple answer... try it, you can always roll back to your previous OS without loosing a thing.

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Has not this discussion been flogged to death discussed before?

 

Probably, but threads tend to get pretty long, and sometimes it's difficult to pull out good and/or applicable information from the not so good or relevant info.  From that perspective, I'll say the matter has been been flogged for the OP, who was simply looking for information.

 

I truly do understand your point, but for the reasons stated above and other reasons, AVSIM's policy is not to prevent users from posting, even if the matter has been raised before.

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OK, my upgrade went very well, no problems at all. FS9 (3x versions), FSX (now dumped) & my P3D all worked perfectly, when I upgraded my i5 4GB laptop from Windows 7 to Windows 10 by using the Media Creation tool from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

This worked far better, I also upgraded my other Windows 8.1 laptop (Celeron, 2GB) using this tool instead of the update icon on the bottom right of the screen that would not work properly.

 

The only thing that did not work was my built-in web cam on the Windows 7 laptop, as it is a generic cam & the last drivers were dated 2007! Everything else worked. Just for testing, I rolled back twice to my previous operating system & them re-installed Windows 10. No losses or problems at all.

 

So, go for it.

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I had numerous problems with Windows 10 and ended up reinstalling 4 times. My advice would be do it from scratch by dropping partications etc and then have a look at this video

 

https://youtu.be/DwiHog2leMM

 

This shows how to turn off all the crap

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As I said, I've had no problems, on 2x machines. maybe I'm just one of the fortunate ones. Oh, it also seems that the laptops run faster, as do the sims when starting up.

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I'm curious why people call it an 'upgrade'. What's better about 10 over 7 specifically for FS? Higher fps? Doubt it.

 

I'm not including 8 in this because we all know how flawed that OS was.

 

Do you still have control over what updates are applied by Microsoft? If not then that is still a major problem for me.

 

And one other point. If it wasn't free for 7 & 8 owners would you buy it?

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It's called an upgrade because it is something up from something else, upgrading Windows 7 or 8.1 to Windows 10

An update is what happens on Tuesday's. An update makes something more current.

 

8 was updated to 8.1

Main support for Windows 7 stopped in January 2015, Windows 8 support in January 2016!

 

As far as auto updates go, why on earth would you want this restricted?

Before Windows 10 we all were possibly up to date with updates.

As said on ZDNET:

The number one complaint people have about Windows 10 is that it forces patches down their throat. Good! There are too many security dolts using Windows who are making the net unsafe for all of us.

Why? Because year after year it's been shown that most users can't be trusted to keep their systems up to date. That, in turn, means that millions of PCs are owned every day by malware using bugs that were patched ages ago.

Most botnets are powered by unprotected Windows systems and that, in turn, means all of us get attacked because clueless people won't update their systems.

 

Historically, there have been way too many Windows patches over the years that break working systems. Even so, automatic updates are better than having millions of out-of-date, unsafe systems on the net.

Still, as Ed Bott, ZDNet's resident Windows expert, said, "On the other side of the equation, making this decision means Microsoft takes on a major responsibility to not screw things up. They have to earn the trust that auto updates will work."

What if you can't stand this idea of patches being shoved down your throat? Well, Microsoft isn't publicizing it, but there is a Windows 10 troubleshooter package to give you more control. It's called "How to temporarily prevent a Windows or driver update from reinstalling in Windows 10," KB3073930. This enables you to hide or block Windows Updates and -- the most likely source of Windows 10 patch problems -- Driver updates.

 

Would I buy it if it was not free?

Of course, why would I want an obsolete unsupported operating system that is probably not really optimised for the latest hardware.

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Robin,

 

Ah so because the OS number is incremented it's deemed to be an upgrade. Does that make the newer one better? I have my doubts simply because Microsoft employs thousands of people and they need something to do.

 

There may well be things in 10 that weren't in previous OS but unless the user needs them what's the point in having them?

 

Many of us have a specialist PC purely for FS and I see nothing in 10 that FS needs. Therefore I have no need for the new OS.

 

Why would I want updates restricted? Because I want to choose what's changed on my PC. I accept most updates but after the outcry following the W10 'adverts' that started appearing in 7 around a year ago I look upon updates in a different light.

 

I want to choose when I update my nVidia drivers, not Microsoft. It should be a user choice, not forced on us assuming we're all incapable of controlling our PCs.

 

Of course, why would I want an obsolete unsupported operating system that is probably not really optimised for the latest hardware.

 

It's not obsolete if it's supported until 2020. I doubt W10 will optimise my Saitek yoke any better than W7 does.

 

And I'll ask again. Does FS run any better under 10 than 7? If it doesn't and I haven't seen any posts to suggest it does then what's the point if that PC is used purely for FS?

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I performed the upgrade and had zero problems with FSX:SE or any addons (i have an insane number of addons).



Overall system performance (Windows) is better as well.

 

Well, lets agree to disagree on this...

 

But 8 was upgraded to 8.1 to correct errors. Yes, 8 was a dog, as Vista was.

 

Interesting that you feel that Microsoft's business model is keeping their staff gainfully employed to feed their product to us consumers.

 

There are quite a lot of us that find Windows 10 to be faster, somehow.

 

Anyhow.... If you are happy, stick with what you have..

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There are quite a lot of us that find Windows 10 to be faster, somehow.

 

Anyhow.... If you are happy, stick with what you have..

If someone did a proper fps test that proved beyond all doubt that FSX under 10 was x% faster than under 7 I would definitely consider changing providing x was at least 10. But subjective tests are a different matter.

 

Each to their own of course. :smile:

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It will be impossible to do any sort of test.

Our PC's & configuration are unique

Our collection of software also

Our add-ons are unique as well... the list goes on..

The results of any test done is only valid for that particular PC on which it has been done, & possibly of interest only to the tester him/herself.

 

The phrase "Analysis Paralysis"comes to mind.

As, I'm sure you know, various tests have been done, with very conflicting results, proving nothing.

 

There is no 'Holy Grail' out there, be it the search for operating systems or simulations.

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I performed the upgrade and had zero problems with FSX:SE or any addons (i have an insane number of addons).

 

Overall system performance (Windows) is better as well.

 

I've only read about one person who had a problem with the conversion, but if you're concerned about that you can download the full installer to a thumb drive or ISO to burn it to a DVD and run the complete install rather than the conversion.

 

Best of l=luck!

Same here. No issues so far in FSX-SE, only.

 

 

Do you still have control over what updates

Yes, Ray. Computer Active mag(WHS) showed how to do it a few weeks ago. If you want, I'll scan the relevant pages and PM you with them.

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Yes, Ray. Computer Active mag(WHS) showed how to do it a few weeks ago. If you want, I'll scan the relevant pages and PM you with them.

No thanks Rick but thanks for the offer. I may look at changing just before the free period ends.

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