Using the default tail hook under key assignments. I just assign it to a button on my joystick.

 

Thanks, now I got it. I assign the standard key press shift + q (hook) to a button in fsuipc.

If you notice anything wrong please let me know since we found we are not finished and will be releasing another version soon. Thanks!

 

VERSION 2.4 UPDATES: Coming Soon!

The green gear safe lights were not always working with gear down. (Fixed)

Minimum speed to lower gear is now 260 knots.

Flaps damage speed is now 260 knots.

Flaps blowout speed is now 300 knots.

Off the top of my head If you want system accuracy:

 

- Bleed air lights should not illuminate when engines are shutdown, as abnormals are not simulated you should not see the indication on the annunciator panel other than a annunciator panel light test.

 

- Ignition lights should illuminate when thrust lever is set to idle position during start up, they auto extinguish at start cycle completion.

 

- The jet pumps as modeled are not correct, the engine driven fuel pumps provide the fuel pressure required for the jet pumps to operate thus the engines must be running for them to function.The standby   pumps provide the fuel pressure for engine start and are automatically actuated during the start cycle.The jet pump light should not illuminate when a starter is engaged, a steady illumination will only    occur if the pilot moved a jet pump switch switch to on or off position and the jet pump valve failed to open or close as selected. It is not a "pump", all that switch does is open or close a valve in the fuel system to allow the high pressure fuel from the engine driven pumps to circulate through the tip and wing tanks.

 

- The fill or empty fuel panel lights should not be illuminated once fill or transfer function has been completed and pilot has turned the transfer switch to the off position.

 

-  A standby fuel pump switch should not cause a jet pump switch light to illuminate on or off. 

 

- When turning on the nacelle heat on it should not illuminate a red bleed air light, it should be the amber eng ice light instead. 

Forgot one other item, when the anti skid switch is off the four red lights next to the pilot's airspeed indicator should be illuminated, as in no electrical power to the anti skid system or a failure.

 

 

Minimum speed to lower gear is now 260 knots.

 

Shouldn't that be MAXIMUM speed?

 

Vic

Off the top of my head If you want system accuracy:

 

- Bleed air lights should not illuminate when engines are shutdown, as abnormals are not simulated you should not see the indication on the annunciator panel other than a annunciator panel light test.

 

- Ignition lights should illuminate when thrust lever is set to idle position during start up, they auto extinguish at start cycle completion.

 

- The jet pumps as modeled are not correct, the engine driven fuel pumps provide the fuel pressure required for the jet pumps to operate thus the engines must be running for them to function.The standby   pumps provide the fuel pressure for engine start and are automatically actuated during the start cycle.The jet pump light should not illuminate when a starter is engaged, a steady illumination will only    occur if the pilot moved a jet pump switch switch to on or off position and the jet pump valve failed to open or close as selected. It is not a "pump", all that switch does is open or close a valve in the fuel system to allow the high pressure fuel from the engine driven pumps to circulate through the tip and wing tanks.

 

- The fill or empty fuel panel lights should not be illuminated once fill or transfer function has been completed and pilot has turned the transfer switch to the off position.

 

-  A standby fuel pump switch should not cause a jet pump switch light to illuminate on or off. 

 

- When turning on the nacelle heat on it should not illuminate a red bleed air light, it should be the amber eng ice light instead. 

Forgot one other item, when the anti skid switch is off the four red lights next to the pilot's airspeed indicator should be illuminated, as in no electrical power to the anti skid system or a failure.

 

Bleed air illuminates below 38 PSI.

 

The ignition lights illuminate when the cycle starts. If the fuel computers are off the lights remain on until the start switch is moved up or if the fuel computer is on they auto extinguish when the cycle is finished. We have had this system setup up correctly. 

 

The fuel pumps are modeled correctly just as you mentioned. They only illuminate for 2 seconds to show the valve opened or closed. A failure would cause them to stay illuminated.

 

The transfer light does extinguish if the switch is off. For the full or empty i modeled it to stay on. Not sure about this and need to look into it.

 

The standby pumps also use the main pump lights. Some panels have lights for both and some share the same lights.

 

I was told to use the bleed air light for the nacelle. I have to agree with you it makes more sense to use the eng ice light. The eng ice says it only illuminates when the bleed air is below 2 psi. The lear pilot said to make the bleed air come on for 2 seconds when the nacelle heat is turned on. So not sure what to do since the tech manual does not mention what you said or the pilot.

 

Actually the anti brake lights only work for a failure. I decided to have them show red when the brakes skid and the switch is off. If the switch is on you will not see a light and you can't skid. (We decided to not go with realism on this as you will never see a light. But rather show that you are locking up the brakes.)

 

Thanks!

Shouldn't that be MAXIMUM speed?

 

Vic

Typo, yes maximum.

The red bleed air light is for either an ABNORMAL over temperature condition or on some S/N aircraft an "over pressure condition" 

 

"The ignition lights illuminate when the cycle starts"  - Only if the fuel computer switches are on when you start an engine which is standard operating procedure.With a fuel computer switch off you can only turn on ignitors by using the lower panel ignition switch.

 

Pilot action is required to close the the xfer/fill switch with turns off the fill or empty lights.

 

Standby pumps lights were an optional AMK mod made available for retro fit to indicate when a standby pump was energized.Due to instances where some aircraft experienced an inadvertent fuel imbalance caused by a standby pump that was stuck on, USAF lost a Lear 35 (C-21) in a well known accident and I experienced that same malfunction during inflight fuel transfer. I have never seen as you say a "shared light" on the fuel panel in the actual aircraft or full motion simulator.The jet pump light is for that switch only.

 

The amber engine anti ice light will briefly Illuminate when the switch is turned on, and then it goes out. A steady indication would indicate an abnormal condition, it failed to operate or it is operating when not commanded to do so. At idle thrust in flight with full anti ice on you may see a steady illumination due to insufficient bleed air pressure, increasing thrust will extinguish the light.

 

The anti skid lights will illuminate under two conditions 1. Individual or all wheel anti skid failure   2. Turning the anti skid switch off manually, to see that all lights illuminate verifying electrical power to the system. It was also a means of verifying a wheel disc was not frozen when operating off contaminated runways in freezing conditions.If suspect we would turn off the a/s switch to allow pumping the brakes after the gear was down and break up any frozen precip on the brake discs and then turn the system on again before landing.That would not be possible inflight with the a/s switch on as wheel brakes are disabled until landing when squat switch compression and wheel spin up occurs on landing.

 

These comments are based on many years experience in the aircraft. 

CW46, on 19 Mar 2016 - 9:44 PM, said:

 

The red bleed air light is for either an ABNORMAL over temperature condition or on some S/N aircraft an "over pressure condition"

 

"The ignition lights illuminate when the cycle starts" - Only if the fuel computer switches are on when you start an engine which is standard operating procedure.With a fuel computer switch off you can only turn on ignitors by using the lower panel ignition switch.

 

Pilot action is required to close the the xfer/fill switch with turns off the fill or empty lights.

 

Standby pumps lights were an optional AMK mod made available for retro fit to indicate when a standby pump was energized.Due to instances where some aircraft experienced an inadvertent fuel imbalance caused by a standby pump that was stuck on, USAF lost a Lear 35 (C-21) in a well known accident and I experienced that same malfunction during inflight fuel transfer. I have never seen as you say a "shared light" on the fuel panel in the actual aircraft or full motion simulator.The jet pump light is for that switch only.

 

The amber engine anti ice light will briefly Illuminate when the switch is turned on, and then it goes out. A steady indication would indicate an abnormal condition, it failed to operate or it is operating when not commanded to do so. At idle thrust in flight with full anti ice on you may see a steady illumination due to insufficient bleed air pressure, increasing thrust will extinguish the light.

 

The anti skid lights will illuminate under two conditions 1. Individual or all wheel anti skid failure 2. Turning the anti skid switch off manually, to see that all lights illuminate verifying electrical power to the system. It was also a means of verifying a wheel disc was not frozen when operating off contaminated runways in freezing conditions.If suspect we would turn off the a/s switch to allow pumping the brakes after the gear was down and break up any frozen precip on the brake discs and then turn the system on again before landing.That would not be possible inflight with the a/s switch on as wheel brakes are disabled until landing when squat switch compression and wheel spin up occurs on landing.

 

These comments are based on many years experience in the aircraft.

Will get these updates included in our next update. Thanks for the detailed info.

 

Even if the fuel computer is on or off you must put the starter/generator switch to the start position. So i am confused on what you want to change as it seems right according to other lear pilots and from what i am reading on the tech manual. If the computer is off then the light remains on until you move the switch up. If the fuel computer is on then the light will extinguish when the start cycle is finished without moving the switch out of the start position. Because the fuel computer does this for you rather than you manually turning the start cycle off.

 

For the bleed air i think i will stay with the tech manual and use under 38 PSI. This is also in our user manual. So it may be wrong to your experience but the manual states this and it will be a bit easier for me to code.

 

For the anti-ice the tech manual and a lear 35 pilot who is on my beta team says this. The anti-ice illuminates when the bleed air is under 2 PSI. And when the switch is turned on the bleed air light illuminates briefly.

 

Everything else i think i can update with no issues.

Just to clarify I am referring to the lower panel "ignition light" not the starter engage light.When you engage the starter and N2 reaches 10% the thrust lever is moved from cutoff to idle position.That is when you would see the "amber" ignition light illuminate and it will extinguish when the start cycle completes.It will also illuminate if you manually use the panel ignition switch which you have modeled.The "red" starter engagement light will illuminate any time the starter is engaged with a fuel computer on or off.

 

Under normal conditions the fuel computer switches should always be in the on position including engine start.If you are starting an engine on the ground with a fuel computer off and intending to go fly it means you have a ferry permit from the FAA to get the aircraft to a maintenance facility. ( Assuming fly by the rules )

 

The abnormal and emergency procedure check list will describe the "red" Bleed Air annunciator condition, there can be an under pressure condition for engine anti ice but that would apply to the "amber" Engine Ice annunciator.

 

One comment about your reference to a tech manual, there were many revisions to the manuals over the years to correct inaccurate system description or errors when published.In many recurrent training sessions the instructors would always point out errors that were to be corrected in a future manual revision.Another point is you may have modeled a specific serial number aircraft, again there are numerous systems differences dependant on when the aircraft was manufactured.The manuals will have references to the specific range of serial numbers that a system difference will apply to.

 

It gets better with each "revision" you release.

Thanks, now I got it. I assign the standard key press shift + q (hook) to a button in fsuipc.

Should using Shift+Q on the keyboard activate the Steering Lock light? I ask because I cannot get that to work. There is also a control Toggle Tail Hook Handle in FSUIPC under both the Buttons & Switches tab, and the Key Presses tab, but neither of those work either. I'm wondering if something in my setup is trapping the Shift+ Q key combination.  Is there anything in the Lear35 that has to be setup to enable the Steering Lock to work with Shift + Q?

Thx,

Al

Will get these updates included in our next update. Thanks for the detailed info.

Even if the fuel computer is on or off you must put the starter/generator switch to the start position. So i am confused on what you want to change as it seems right according to other lear pilots and from what i am reading on the tech manual. If the computer is off then the light remains on until you move the switch up. If the fuel computer is on then the light will extinguish when the start cycle is finished without moving the switch out of the start position. Because the fuel computer does this for you rather than you manually turning the start cycle off.

For the bleed air i think i will stay with the tech manual and use under 38 PSI. This is also in our user manual. So it may be wrong to your experience but the manual states this and it will be a bit easier for me to code.

 

For the anti-ice the tech manual and a lear 35 pilot who is on my beta team says this. The anti-ice illuminates when the bleed air is under 2 PSI. And when the switch is turned on the bleed air light illuminates briefly.

Everything else i think i can update with no issues.

I second all the suggestions from CW46. While at it, could you please kindly also have a look at the pressurization system (Cabin VS rate indicator and rate selector currently inop?)

 

Again, thanks for the Lear 35 which I like and fly a lot. Finally a Lear rendition that strives for realistic systems implementation. Keep the updates coming!

Should using Shift+Q on the keyboard activate the Steering Lock light? I ask because I cannot get that to work. There is also a control Toggle Tail Hook Handle in FSUIPC under both the Buttons & Switches tab, and the Key Presses tab, but neither of those work either. I'm wondering if something in my setup is trapping the Shift+ Q key combination.  Is there anything in the Lear35 that has to be setup to enable the Steering Lock to work with Shift + Q?

Thx,

Al

Hi Al,

 

I looked in P3D under controls what shortcuts were assigned to tailhook and then used them in FSUIPC buttons, keypress. In my case it was Shift + Q. I gues that's the standard assignment.

 

Have you checked what's assigned in your P3D settings?

Hi Perry,

Thanks for the response.

Al

 

Edit: Just realized this is the wrong thread for the Steer Lock topic. I will start a new Steer Lock thread since I am still having a problem . 

G

 

Just to clarify I am referring to the lower panel "ignition light" not the starter engage light.When you engage the starter and N2 reaches 10% the thrust lever is moved from cutoff to idle position.That is when you would see the "amber" ignition light illuminate and it will extinguish when the start cycle completes.It will also illuminate if you manually use the panel ignition switch which you have modeled.The "red" starter engagement light will illuminate any time the starter is engaged with a fuel computer on or off.

 

Under normal conditions the fuel computer switches should always be in the on position including engine start.If you are starting an engine on the ground with a fuel computer off and intending to go fly it means you have a ferry permit from the FAA to get the aircraft to a maintenance facility. ( Assuming fly by the rules )

 

The abnormal and emergency procedure check list will describe the "red" Bleed Air annunciator condition, there can be an under pressure condition for engine anti ice but that would apply to the "amber" Engine Ice annunciator.

 

One comment about your reference to a tech manual, there were many revisions to the manuals over the years to correct inaccurate system description or errors when published.In many recurrent training sessions the instructors would always point out errors that were to be corrected in a future manual revision.Another point is you may have modeled a specific serial number aircraft, again there are numerous systems differences dependant on when the aircraft was manufactured.The manuals will have references to the specific range of serial numbers that a system difference will apply to.

 

It gets better with each "revision" you release.

Glad you like the update.

 

Where is this lower panel ignition light your talking about. I am still confused. Can you give me better description of the location. Next update we can fix this. 

And yes the tech manual has specific info for specific versions of the systems.

 

Where is this lower panel ignition light your talking about. I am still confused. Can you give me better description of the location. Next update we can fix this. 

And yes the tech manual has specific info for specific versions of the systems.

 

Labeled:  AIR IGN L and AIR IGN R  on lower left panel above L&R start- gen switches. https://www.dropbox.com/s/oplb3dflfmm8fzy/Air%20Ignition.jpg?dl=0

Labeled:  AIR IGN L and AIR IGN R  on lower left panel above L&R start- gen switches. https://www.dropbox.com/s/oplb3dflfmm8fzy/Air%20Ignition.jpg?dl=0

Ok this makes sense. I assumed before it was only for the air start. I have updated the code today. Next update you can see this included.

 

Other updates.

On our product page you can now download a new version of the GNS530 GPS cab file. The manual is updated and includes the updates at the bottom of the manual.

Also the next version will have the GTX330 updates. The ON and ALT and STBY will power on the unit. The ON and ALT will show a R symbol. The IDENT will show a ident label.

The GNS model clocks were not working right. The GTN model they are working correct. We found the GTX330 had a conflict sharing a code. This is now fixed for the next update.