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The Wilco Falcon 7x appears tp be released.

 

Not expecting a lot, but, maybe someone will bite and report back surprising news . . .

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FMS Based on default FSX GPS.........just slightly disappointing [/sarcasm]

 

DB

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I'm so scared of Wilco i'm not even opening the page to prevent my brain from doing something i might (probably will) regret later.

 

FMS based on GPS eh? How about that for accuracy :P

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Not touching that one.  

 

But I really really really want a proper (or even half decent) long range business jet!  We need someone to bite the bullet on this one and report back!  :Big Grin:

 

That said....I found a deeply buried mod on an external forum that turns the NGX into a BBJ 1/2.....so maybe I'll just stick with that and forego my 4000ft runways.

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But I really really really want a proper (or even half decent) long range business jet!  We need someone to bite the bullet on this one and report back!  :Big Grin:

 

That said....I found a deeply buried mod on an external forum that turns the NGX into a BBJ 1/2.....so maybe I'll just stick with that and forego my 4000ft runways.

 

Why not you??????

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Just checked the huge displays on the screenshots and realized, that Wilco not even managed that the content shown on those screens is not squeezed. Looks rather ridiculous to see all those roses looking like an egg instead of being properly circular... Definitely a no-go for me.

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FMS Based on default FSX GPS

 

Further down the product page, it says 'Navigraph Compatible'. Not sure what that means but it could be some kind of good news.

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Why not you??????

 

I'm more of a politician.....do as I say, not as I do  :Devil:

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I may bite the bullet, give me time until after the sundowner :-)

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I may bite the bullet, give me time until after the sundowner :-)

 

You're my hero

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I'm more of a politician.....do as I say, not as I do  :Devil:

 

 

LOL!

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If it ain't PMDG, then I ain't P.A.Y.I.N.G

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If it ain't PMDG, then I ain't P.A.Y.I.N.G

Strict principles, but if I waited until PMDG designs my favorite aircraft I'd be too old to operate a phone. Too bad that they didn't even try to model the EASy II Avionics. 

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....Ok.......I caved  . :Worried:

 

Will test later and report back.

 

DB

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....Ok.......I caved  . :Worried:

 

Will test later and report back.

 

DB

Thumbs up. Just tested the Aerofly sim, didn't encourage me to try the Wilco now but I am still in for the bet. After all, the Steam purchase is refundable, the Wilco is not.

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...Ok.......I caved  .

So did I. Curious to see what you think.

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....Ok.......I caved  . :Worried:

 

Will test later and report back.

 

DB

 

 

So did I. Curious to see what you think.

 Looking forward to hearing your reports !

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So did I. Curious to see what you think.

 

Are you running FSX, FSX:SE or P3d?

 

I ask because I'm running FSX (definitely installed the FSX version) and can't seem to find the aircraft in the aircraft list. After install, when the config utility ran, an error message appeared saying it couldn't find dll.xml....and asking if I'd like it to create one.  I found this quite strange so I backed up the existing dll.xml before clicking yes.

 

After that, couldn't find the 7x in the aircraft list.....found that the install had created a new dll.xml under a Prepar3d folder structure.

 

Currently playing with it to see if I can get the aircraft to work.

 

 

On the other hand, after reading some of the documentation....it appears they did put some work into the avionics and systems. I'll reserve further comment until I see it in action.

 

Standby for more.

 

DB

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Are you running FSX, FSX:SE or P3d?

 

I ask because I'm running FSX (definitely installed the FSX version) and can't seem to find the aircraft in the aircraft list. After install, when the config utility ran, an error message appeared saying it couldn't find dll.xml....and asking if I'd like it to create one.  I found this quite strange so I backed up the existing dll.xml before clicking yes.

 

After that, couldn't find the 7x in the aircraft list.....found that the install had created a new dll.xml under a Prepar3d folder structure.

 

Currently playing with it to see if I can get the aircraft to work.

 

 

On the other hand, after reading some of the documentation....it appears they did put some work into the avionics and systems. I'll reserve further comment until I see it in action.

 

Standby for more.

 

DB

I'd try a reinstall, but first check to see if it's in your sim objects folder. I also bought it, going to give it a few more hours of testing.

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I'd try a reinstall, but first check to see if it's in your sim objects folder. I also bought it, going to give it a few more hours of testing.

 

Figured it out. It wasn't the dll.xml file.

 

On the first run of the config tool, I changed the aircraft ID's and tail numbers for some of the aircraft (using the utility). After 3rd reinstall, leaving everything as-is, it has now showed up in my aircraft menu.

 

Off to the races! 

 

DB

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Installed without problems. Config tool not working without the migration tool with Prepar3D 3.2 but ok with MT on (seems that the tool is looking for a Prepar3D version up to 2,x). AIRAC cycle was recognized so can confirm that the database is current. Most switches work. Lights don't dim but are not too bright either.

 

Quick summary: The 7x does look better from the inside and the outside than expected. Flight dynamics and navigation still to be tested.

 

More to come, bear with me, it's 2:26 AM here and I gotta work today. 

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On taxi out now...

 

Initial impressions:

 

Bad:

Sounds are subpar. I work with one of these aircraft every day. As far as I can tell, these sounds weren't recorded anywhere near a 7x.....or maybe they weren't mixed well.

 

Visuals....nose gear strut seems to be sitting a little low.

 

FMC Programming....Can't create a flightplan from scratch in the FMS (as far as I can tell) - you have to load a pre-existing FSX flightplan....not the end of the world though. (I will check to see if / how well the flightplans can be edited once loaded).

 

 

Good:

They definitely spent some time on the systems.

 

FMC Programming - Cant create a flightplan from scratch, but you can load Navigraph SIDS/STARS into your flightplan. The aircraft automatically calculates V speeds based on ambient conditions and length of the selected runway etc. 

 

Cockpit systems - The real aircraft uses a trackball to make selections on the PFD, MFD etc. The Wilco 7x lets you use the mouse to make selections and changes on the screens (in the same way the old Feelthere E-Jets did, or the way the PMDG 777 does for the checklist selections)

 

Integrated checklists etc....integrated everything actually....nav/com radios, transponder....

 

 

 

So far......Carenado could learn a thing or two from these guys on systems modelling. Wilco could also learn a thing or two about visuals from Carenado. Both could use TSS's (Turbine Sound Studio's) help.

 

More to come after departure......

 

DB

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