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Why are some of these cheaper at Simmarket where they're not on sale?  Is that an elephant in the room?

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Why are some of these cheaper at Simmarket where they're not on sale?  Is that an elephant in the room?

 

 

Simmarket is only a distribution platform; to that end, they don't control prices. The developer sets the price point and Simmarket gets a portion (25% or 30%) of each sale...

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Simmarket is only a distribution platform; to that end, they don't control prices. The developer sets the price point and Simmarket gets a portion (25% or 30%) of each sale...

That doesn't answer his question... If it was just the dev all stores would have the same price...

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That doesn't answer his question... If it was just the dev all stores would have the same price.

 

What are you taking about? Obviously manufacturers/developers alter prices based on several factors; to that point, not every item you purchase is the exact same price in every store. In what world does that paradigm exist? It varies based on several market factors (e.g. region and demographics); it's up to the consumer to do their research and find the best price available.  Additionally, prices will fluctuate based on the distributors "cut."  Specifically, if Simmarket takes 25% of each sale, and PilotShop takes 40%, items sold via the latter will have higher price points. Perhaps PilotShop can justify the higher "cuts" based on network traffic (i.e. they have x amount of page hits above their competitors).  From a developers perspective, maybe their software isn't selling well on a specific platform; thus, they feel compelled to offer a sale price to attract more sales via that venue.  There's also the difference in currency exchange to consider, which depends on the operating locatiosn of the developers and/or distributors. There are countless possibilities to explain the price gaps; however, neither PilotShop nor Simmarket sets sale prices...that's up to the developers.   I'm curious to understand, exactly, what you're implying?  Are you suggesting some nefarious activity?   

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Your comments contradict each other... On the first one you say "they are just a distribution platform","it's the dev", "they don't control prices"... But on the last one you say different stores take different %... So it's not just the dev, they DO control the final price, and THAT's the answer to his question as to why simmarket would be cheaper in that case...

 

Edit: also that paradigm exists EVERYWHERE, that's what "msrp" is... If then some stores decide to male less profit and offer sales that's a different story.

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Guys, I think it would be good if we could just focus on the stuff that's on sale and forget about why.  It's business, that's all, and people want to read about bargains.

 

Any of these titles any good?  I've never bought a PacSim title but I've heard some good things.  No Greek aerosoft airports...which is what I was looking for. *sigh*  I've wanted Venice but I wonder about P3D compatibility there.  Any thoughts?

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What I did to get Skiathos was to buy from PCAviator.au on their 10%-off tuesday, it's a small saving but helps.And it's very good :)

At that time the exchange rate for ozzie dollars was good too which helped as well :)

Current exchange rates and economic prospects suggest financial prudence, so the sales are of academic interest only right now... :(

Venice I think is pretty old - when I last saw it.

So is the real thing of course :) but in a different way :)

Cheers

Keith

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Guys, I think it would be good if we could just focus on the stuff that's on sale and forget about why.  It's business, that's all, and people want to read about bargains.

 

Any of these titles any good?  I've never bought a PacSim title but I've heard some good things.  No Greek aerosoft airports...which is what I was looking for. *sigh*  I've wanted Venice but I wonder about P3D compatibility there.  Any thoughts?

Pacsim Ninoy AquinoIntl (RPLL) is outstanding! I have most of their airports as hubs purely for PMDG because they have virtually zero FPS impact, except for Ninoy AquinoIntl which is only moderately heavy about the same as FSDT airports.

 

Their work is not on par with Fly Tampa or FSDT (apart from RPLL) but they are still very nice

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Guys, I think it would be good if we could just focus on the stuff that's on sale and forget about why.  It's business, that's all, and people want to read about bargains.

 

Any of these titles any good?  I've never bought a PacSim title but I've heard some good things.  No Greek aerosoft airports...which is what I was looking for. *sigh*  I've wanted Venice but I wonder about P3D compatibility there.  Any thoughts?

Very salient point first line..

 

Don't know which sim you are running,Gregg, but I just picked up a couple of Greek airports from Steam's sale at 50% reduction, not sure which developer but a quick look at them they appeared good. I have a Fly Tampa Athens which is good.

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Don't know which sim you are running,Gregg, but I just picked up a couple of Greek airports from Steam's sale at 50% reduction, not sure which developer but a quick look at them they appeared good. I have a Fly Tampa Athens which is good.

 

I'd love FlyTampa to have a 4th of July sale...Athens, Corfu, Montreal, Toronto, Hong Kong.  I hear they even have an airport down by Antarctica...Sidney, I think it's called?

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Aah, Sydney, I have that. Again, up to FT's standards/ I'm after Corfu, Montreal and Toronto like you too.

 

We can live in hope for the 4th Of July firesale.

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I sometimes see the Aerosofts' Catalina on sale - again this time.

 

Does anyone know if she is still working in P3Dv3.3 ? - I like the look of this Flying Boat very much and was tempted a couple of times, but was always able to control my moods. So, should I pick her up this time?

Thanks and Cheers

Frank

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Guys, I think it would be good if we could just focus on the stuff that's on sale and forget about why.  It's business, that's all, and people want to read about bargains.

 

 

You're the one who initiated the topic by implying "an elephant" (i.e. nefarious activity) in the room. I think it's a little disingenuous to make that statement, then swoop in and implore me to stay on topic? I'd like to know precisely what you meant by that comment?

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You're the one who initiated the topic...

 

It might be wise to just check prices at both places.

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Your comments contradict each other... On the first one you say "they are just a distribution platform","it's the dev", "they don't control prices"... But on the last one you say different stores take different %... So it's not just the dev, they DO control the final price, and THAT's the answer to his question as to why simmarket would be cheaper in that case...

 

Edit: also that paradigm exists EVERYWHERE, that's what "msrp" is... If then some stores decide to male less profit and offer sales that's a different story.

 

 

 

How do my comment contradict themselves? This really isn't a difficult concept to understand, sir. Let's walk through it - A developer needs $15.00 for each unit sold to reach their equilibrium. Distributor A takes a 25% cut and Distributor B takes a 40% cut. Therefore, to make $15 per unit, the developer must sell their software for $20.00 on site A and $24.50 on Site B. HOWEVER, the developer can CHOOSE to sell their product for $20.00 on Site B too; although, they will only make $12.00 per unit. Yet, this revenue reduction maybe acceptable to the developer if site B has a capacity to sell higher volumes; thus, reducing the cost per unit to reach said desired equilibrium. It is, however, 100% in control of the developer. If you don't believe me, you can contact the sales departments from each platform and obtain a copy of their developer contracts. There's no elephant or nefarious activity going on....

 

Concerning your MRSP statement, you're confusing retailers with brokers; to that point, it's not an Apples to Apples comparison. The latter receives a portion of the units sold, which is what SimMarket, FSPilotShop, etc represent. Unlike retailers, brokers do not set sale prices; they simply provide a mechanism for the manufacture/developer to sell their goods.

 

 

Be fair to the distributors; they're doing NOTHING wrong (i.e. no elephant in the room)!

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Very nice explanation, but you're forgetting the most inportant thing: they prices ARE different, and almost always more expensive at fspilotshop...

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Very nice explanation, but you're forgetting the most inportant thing: they prices ARE different, and almost always more expensive at fspilotshop...

 

 

 

I assume that's because of thier higher %, Raven. One thing I noted about Simmarket, they appear to sell higher volumes to the European market while FSPilotShop does a bulk of thier business in the US market; perhaps that explains the price difference? Anyways, like you, Simmarket is my preferred vendor; I like how you can download ANY of your previous purchases without paying a fee. I will pay a lil extra for that convenience. Anyways, good discussion, sir!

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I've never bought a PacSim title but I've heard some good things.

 

I just got Taipei from Pacsim and like it.


About Aerosoft on sale: Check out this link to Simplanets store. Maybe it's worth comparing prices.

 

http://www.sim-planet.com/en/search?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=assu16&submit_search=Search&utm_source=Simplanet+Newsletter&utm_campaign=9a3d860620-SimPlanet+Newsletter+June+2016+%238&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c8ddd4ec5e-9a3d860620-184612649&mc_cid=9a3d860620&mc_eid=f16571f07a

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PacSim airports are top notch and I have also had excellent customer service from them. I just picked up Taipei and have Manila, Xiamen, Nagasaki, and some others. Not only do they look great but the performance is great as well. Probably picking up Chubu Centrair during the sale. Highly recommended.

 

Cheers, Pete

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I've wanted Venice but I wonder about P3D compatibility there. Any thoughts?

 

Gregg, Venice works well enough for me in P3D 3.2.

Be aware that the airport itself is showing it's age somewhat but Venice itself looks great, I can pick out the square (campo) I stayed in two years ago and where I will be back to in a couple of weeks.

P3D's AA does the scenery no favours but I still enjoy LIPZ especially as a short hop from LOWI

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Be warned guys. Fs pilot shop charges to reactivate expired download links. No email to warn you , it just quietly happens

seriously who does that?

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No need to pay  anything  if  you make  a back up copy  of  your  download  to a cd  or  external

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No need to pay  anything  if  you make  a back up copy  of  your  download  to a cd  or  exteranl

In a perfect world ? and what if that external drive fails..

One month ago I had a 2 TB drive fail with ALL of my downloads plus my ORBX junction link. So I went and bought 2 hard drives. One for a back up and the other for a back up of the back up so it never happens again. 

 

A CD? I would need a thousand of them! Some people just dont have the $$ for a back up drive, thats life..

 

My point is FS pilot shop are the only company doing this. Its not advertised and just plain sneaky IMO

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I think it is advertised somewhere. What is not advertised is that they reset the expiration when the file gets updated.

Of course it would be nice if you could reactivate for free, but having your own backup is so important in so many ways.

And if people don't have the $$ for a backup drive, they don't have the $$ for buying so much from these shops either :smile:

 

But yes, I try to buy elsewhere, too, unless their sale is so good that the reactivation fee ($4.95) would not matter, or the other options have worse limits, e.g. only 3 downloads at the Carenado and Alabeo stores (is it possible to reactivate the links there?)

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