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Will LM Abandon P3D/MS ESP Development?

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May I recommend that you take some time and look at the LM Corp website. Look at the type research they are doing. Most of their future is based on Flight, either airplanes, drones or space Flight. Then there is weather, Army tanks and other delights of future war, Then their is Disaster Management and crowd control. I am sure I am leaving out many, but all these things need simulators for research and training. People just have to understand that LM does not do all this so that you and I can pretend to be 747 pilots. :p0503:

 

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What a strange question.

 

 

It's my belief that people usually ask questions based on their current knowledge level, which comes from their exposure and experience with related matters. I'm suire from the OP's perspective, it was a rational, thought provoking question, and I see a number of highly experienced AVSIM personalities respond to respectfully to address the OP's question.

 

I would hope that the wide range of ages and experience here (and often inability to know what they are from a username) should lead us to be more respectful and tolerant. If we don't have something helpful, positive or constructive to say then why move on to the next post? 

 

Anyway, food for thought I suppose.

 

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Basically the reactions in the recent thread on the not so formidable latest hotfix led me wondering a bit in this direction. Though some responses here seem to merge LM abandoning ESP with LM abandoning simulation in general, post #8 was roughly the line of thought that occurred to me and there are some good to know points in other posts I came to find in that regard. 

There has been development in 5 years, I cant complain as MSFS had full stopped it. But as a simmer I think though there have been significant changes which have allowed for good flights, too little has changed in too much time, which makes me feel LM is willing to do only so much to the sim. Though I hope to see some major improvement in the future, what looks probable to me is nothing revolutionary might happen. In that case how long before LM stops putting up with all the bugs/issues/limitations that they did not create, is what I was thinking. Food for thought exactly, but apologies if it sounds criticizing or negative. I for one am not much affected by those major issues probably because I do not use FTX and other heavy hitters, and enjoying simming like never before. I do however miss the original MSFS scene and sometimes cant resist dreaming about what future iterations to the present day might have looked and run like. It was sort of an explosion of features and functionality that started to happen perhaps beginning fs2002 that got halted with fsx before it could complete in following iterations. I get reminded of it whenever I hit bugs/quirks in P3D/FSX.

No that's not possible.

 

If you are having issues AVSIM has several guides to resolve and/or work around issues.

 

P3D Guide

CTD Guide

Tips and Tricks Forum

How to Update P3D

 

If your issues are with a (or some) 3rd party products then I'd recommend you contact the 3rd party developer(s).

 

Everything else in this thread is entirely conjecture to what end such conjecture might serve I have no idea?  LM's development of P3D continues and as usual NDA's prevent any further information on what will be happening next with P3D.

 

Now if you want to encourage rather than discourage development of P3D and add-ons, then a positive note would be considerably more effective than a repeated negative notes where solutions already exist.

 

Cheers, Rob.

I will just re-quote Rob, because he said it all regarding this thread.

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What a strange question. It sounds like; will we abandon cars because off all the accidents that occur everyday?

 

The original post and the first few replies of this thread was originally posted in the P3D 3.4 Experience thread, as a part of the long discussion of issues with the 3.4 version. And perhaps to avoid derailing the original thread, the original posts and replies were moved to their own thread. I agree that this discussion doesn't really have much substance, and I don't mean to be a backseat moderator, but having a thread of its own has perhaps generated more discussion of low substance than would have occured in the original thread. Just my opinion.

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Myself I do not think that LM will abandon P3D 32 bit development.

Somewhere in the future their might be a 64 bit version .

 

Lucky me I do not suffer from OOMs and am enjoying v3.4, like earlier versions, to the fullest.

Nice to hear that not everyone is sitting around wringing their hands and thinking of doom and gloom. Its a bit like golf......quit griping and just hit the freakin' ball. Go fly!

 

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Well I don't really see this one going anywhere constructive so it's time to shut it down.

 

 

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