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Hello,

 

I also joined the 777 course and i really enjoy it. Great video tutorials ;)

I will properly also join the Majestic Dash Course soon ( i really wait for the FSL Airbus Tutorial - hopefully it comes soon :))) )

 

When you do the training flight's between the island of Hawaii, which scenery where you using ? Is this from FSDT ?

 

Greetings from Hannover

 

Bodo

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Hey Bodo

 

Yes the airports are from FSDT, the ground textures in Hawaii are photoreal from Megascenery Earth. The download is free (with a charge to cover the download cost of only $5) because the top of the volcanoes have white textures which is actually cloud cover on the satellite image. Because of this, they have made it free. Myron explained this as snow in Hawaii which you actually get at the right time of year! Nobody tell the MSE guys or they might start charging more ;)

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I have those airports and the performance of KHOG was horrendously bad...massive stuttering worse than I've seen.  Hard to believe but, apparently it's because of FS8 textures which P3D has trouble with?  Dunno, but even taxiing on them was bad.  Once the runway was out of sight behind me it got smooth again.

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I have those airports and the performance of KHOG was horrendously bad...massive stuttering worse than I've seen.  Hard to believe but, apparently it's because of FS8 textures which P3D has trouble with?  Dunno, but even taxiing on them was bad.  Once the runway was out of sight behind me it got smooth again.

Really? I can't say I've noticed any difference between the FSX and P3D version. We did disable the paragliders that appear over the beach as they caused stutters and appeared on the TCAS!

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Really? I can't say I've noticed any difference between the FSX and P3D version. We did disable the paragliders that appear over the beach as they caused stutters and appeared on the TCAS!

 

How did you turn them off?

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I don't have it installed currently - have a look in the FSDT/PHOG scenery folder for a BGL that looks like 'glider' or similar. We just changed the file to off. It was over a year ago now, sorry I can't find it exactly.  

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Scenery is what makes me reluctant to purchase more of your products.  Your first one presuposed we were flying in a payware airfield setting.  I personally cannot either afford to buy airports I have limited use of and also have a computer which means that some airports cause problems.

I liked your product with the Dash 800 but would be happier if the programs used default.  They are supposed to be training videos not sales videos for add ons.

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Scenery is what makes me reluctant to purchase more of your products.  Your first one presuposed we were flying in a payware airfield setting.  I personally cannot either afford to buy airports I have limited use of and also have a computer which means that some airports cause problems.

I liked your product with the Dash 800 but would be happier if the programs used default.  They are supposed to be training videos not sales videos for add ons.

 

It's a fair point Harry and I get that not everyone can invest a ton in add-on airports or even has the hardware to run them but the videos would look very dull without add-on scenery to bring them alive. Even if you flew into default Honolulu or Maui, or San Fran or San Diego then everything we're teaching here is applicable. The runways and taxiway layouts will be the same, even if the eye candy isn't. And if you enjoyed the Q400, I think you'll really enjoy the Triple. 

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I don't have it installed currently - have a look in the FSDT/PHOG scenery folder for a BGL that looks like 'glider' or similar. We just changed the file to off. It was over a year ago now, sorry I can't find it exactly.

 

Found them in SimObjects/Boats/FSDT*

 

EDIT:  Hmmm, gosh...removing them made it worse.  Instead of small stutters I got huge ones lasting several seconds from a mile out.  Might be best not to try that.  I'll keep working on it.

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Found them in SimObjects/Boats/FSDT*

 

EDIT:  Hmmm, gosh...removing them made it worse.  Instead of small stutters I got huge ones lasting several seconds from a mile out.  Might be best not to try that.  I'll keep working on it.

I am getting stutters at all FSDT airports currently, and I suspect it may be *SODE* which is incorporated into GSX. Not 100% sure, when I have time I will check it out.

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Found them in SimObjects/Boats/FSDT*

 

EDIT:  Hmmm, gosh...removing them made it worse.  Instead of small stutters I got huge ones lasting several seconds from a mile out.  Might be best not to try that.  I'll keep working on it.

Hi I am the developer of those Hawaiian airport, my advice is to set the antipopup to 2 in addon manager and save to fsx and relaunch it.

This of course will lower 3d detail on the overall simulation, but rise framerate, otherwise I can create dummy for you to replace on our library.

Unfortunately remove those file will do worse as the software call them and will kill performance.

Let me know.

I am getting stutters at all FSDT airports currently, and I suspect it may be *SODE* which is incorporated into GSX. Not 100% sure, when I have time I will check it out.

Same for you read the above post.

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I am getting stutters at all FSDT airports currently, and I suspect it may be *SODE* which is incorporated into GSX. Not 100% sure, when I have time I will check it out.

 

For sure it is not SODE as I had this stutters long before SODE even existed.

 

Hi I am the developer of those Hawaiian airport, my advice is to set the antipopup to 2 in addon manager and save to fsx and relaunch it.

This of course will lower 3d detail on the overall simulation, but rise framerate, otherwise I can create dummy for you to replace on our library.

Unfortunately remove those file will do worse as the software call them and will kill performance.

Let me know.

 

What is the anti pop up really doing? I am always afraid to let the add-on manager save something to my P3D.cfg as it will only mess up things I don't want. That's why I hold off buying any further FSDT airports.

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Thanks Simbo. I am sure I already had it in the cfg.

 

[FSDREAMTEAM]
AltitudeCull=1
AntiPopUp=20
GroundTraffic=1
ViewOptimization=0

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Hi I am the developer of those Hawaiian airport, my advice is to set the antipopup to 2 in addon manager and save to fsx and relaunch it.

This of course will lower 3d detail on the overall simulation, but rise framerate, otherwise I can create dummy for you to replace on our library.

Unfortunately remove those file will do worse as the software call them and will kill performance.

Let me know.

 

I'll take a look tomorrow when I get the chance.  Thanks for the advice.

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Found them in SimObjects/Boats/FSDT*

 

EDIT:  Hmmm, gosh...removing them made it worse.  Instead of small stutters I got huge ones lasting several seconds from a mile out.  Might be best not to try that.  I'll keep working on it.

Are you sure that the BGL (or DLL?) displaying the gliders was disabled? If they are created by a BGL, and if that BGL is still active, then you have only turned off the models that the BGL is calling, resulting in an error condition in the sim, which may very well cause stutters. Don't underestimate what content errors can do, missing models, missing effects, incorrect textures etc. can all cause additional error/exception handling that the sim has to perform - resulting in more or less obvious stutters.

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Are you sure that the BGL (or DLL?)

 

The bgl files don't indicate which one does it.  I'll have some time today to study it more carefully.

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The gliders are sort of boat traffic and they show up in the scenery with FSDT addon manager, if you remove them FSX or P3D will cause strutter.

Use antipopup and if the problem persist let me know so I can send you some dummy file to replace the gliders.

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We'll be back in Hawaii for the 717 Program so I could sure use the glider replacement file if you have one.  :smile:

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We'll be back in Hawaii for the 717 Program so I could sure use the glider replacement file if you have one.  :smile:

Hi Ben,

So you have strutter with those kite, I was so excited at that time, when did them for the scenery as Kahului is the paradise for Kite Surf.

Anyway I will send you asap, so you can shoot strutter free on this magic island.

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Hi Ben,

So you have strutter with those kite, I was so excited at that time, when did them for the scenery as Kahului is the paradise for Kite Surf.

Anyway I will send you asap, so you can shoot strutter free on this magic island.

 

Thanks Fabrizio. I felt a stutter when they loaded but the biggest issue was that they appeared on the TCAS in the 777!  :smile: Traffic, Traffic....

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Thanks Fabrizio. I felt a stutter when they loaded but the biggest issue was that they appeared on the TCAS in the 777! :smile: Traffic, Traffic....

 

I was getting "Terrain, Terrain" on final.  Hmmm.

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I was getting "Terrain, Terrain" on final.  Hmmm.

 

With the gliders you'll be getting Traffic Traffic to go with your Terrain Terrain. At that point I'd jump in the back and let the FO sort it out  :smile:

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To anyone with strutter problem by Kitesurf on PHOG and TCAS alarm, send me a private message with an email and I will send the file to fix the problem.

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I have deleted loads of files and textures in various scenery addons. I do this because I either have more detailed versions of airports (where the less detailed ones cannot be deactivated separately from a more extensive scenery product), or because there are scenery elements that damage my eyesight (and therefore need to be removed before I can continue with my virtual flying). Yes, I am a perfectionist!

 

I do experience stutters in certain locations, but I am not sure if these are connected with the deleted files. Whatever the case, a handful of stutters are (for me) more acceptable than scenery models/textures that hurt my eyes.

 

EDIT: It's worth noting here that I no longer seem to be able to change a .BGL file to a .OFF file. If I try to do this, I end up with a .OFF.BGL file! I did something once that changed all of my file types to "Wordpad documents", and this is when the problem started. If anyone knows what I need to do to correct this, then please let me know!

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