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P3D v4 graphic settings for best overall performance/visuals

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I've split the support discussion out of this thread. If you wish to continue THAT thread, it can be found here:

Vic

 

RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti
40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160 

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Just to add another data point to the discussion, I have a GTX1070 running three 27" monitors in a 5853 x 1080 setup.
I have a number of Orbx products installed (FTX Global Base & Vector, openLC Europe and North America, FTX Global Trees, EU England) and a handful of Flightbeam airports.
I use Active Sky for P3DV4 and also use Ezdok, FSUPIC and Spad.next. I fly almost exclusively PMDG (737, 777 and planning on getting the 747...)

With one exception - more on this below - my FPS is consistently in the high teens/low 20's with most of the settings in P3D maxed out.

And everything looks fantastic. Even flying at dawn / dusk no problems. 
Someone mentioned something a long these lines already, but: P3D v4 with FPS in the high teens looks much better than FSX or even P3D V3 looked with double the FPS. 
Everything looks and feels very smooth, to the point that I don't feel the need to obsess over squeezing out a few more FPS. 

The exception, however is if AS for P3DV4 gives me heavy clouds or rain. When that happens, if my view includes a significant view of the sky/clouds etc, FPS falls like a stone to low single digits. 
Basically it's a slide show. I've tried turning down some of the settings in Active Sky, but so far haven't found any group of settings that will give back some FPS. 
 

Scott Urista

If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur.

I have a lowly GTX970 and an i7 3770 oc'd to 4500, and recently made a couple changes that really helped eliminate/minimize pauses, stutters and poor frame rates:

1. Enabled DSR 2.25x=3840x2160 @60hz, FXAA=off. 4xMSAA, Vsync and triple buffer=on, unlimited frames.

2. Added AffinityMask=85 (sim runs on 0,2,4,6) and used Process Lasso to move my addon programs to 1,3,5,7.

3. Most settings are dense/very dense except texture rez=1m (thanks Bert!) and sceney complexity=normal.

4. I'm running UT2 (50%), ActiveSky, ORBX Evntex, Ezdok2, Ultimate Terrain and Freemesh. That's a lot and pushes my CPU, but I'm getting frames between 20-30 (even with A2A planes). Before changing #1 and #2 above, I was in the teens with pauses lasting seconds. 

 

22 hours ago, charliewards said:

I have a lowly GTX970 and an i7 3770 oc'd to 4500, and recently made a couple changes that really helped eliminate/minimize pauses, stutters and poor frame rates:

1. Enabled DSR 2.25x=3840x2160 @60hz, FXAA=off. 4xMSAA, Vsync and triple buffer=on, unlimited frames.

2. Added AffinityMask=85 (sim runs on 0,2,4,6) and used Process Lasso to move my addon programs to 1,3,5,7.

3. Most settings are dense/very dense except texture rez=1m (thanks Bert!) and sceney complexity=normal.

4. I'm running UT2 (50%), ActiveSky, ORBX Evntex, Ezdok2, Ultimate Terrain and Freemesh. That's a lot and pushes my CPU, but I'm getting frames between 20-30 (even with A2A planes). Before changing #1 and #2 above, I was in the teens with pauses lasting seconds. 

 

Does DSR only work in full screen mode though?  This used to be the case on FSX.  I only have one screen so have to run windowed.

Thomas Derbyshire

23 hours ago, charliewards said:

2. Added AffinityMask=85 (sim runs on 0,2,4,6) and used Process Lasso to move my addon programs to 1,3,5,7.

4. I'm running UT2 (50%), ActiveSky, ORBX Evntex, Ezdok2, Ultimate Terrain and Freemesh.

Means you use process lasso to run UT2, AS, Ezdock etc. on the spare threads? Is there a freeware program capable of telling e.g. UT2 to run on Thread 1 only?

 

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

On 11/6/2017 at 8:46 AM, AnkH said:

Means you use process lasso to run UT2, AS, Ezdock etc. on the spare threads? Is there a freeware program capable of telling e.g. UT2 to run on Thread 1 only?

 

Yes - I assign all extra programs affinities with process lasso (but not P3D... I do that in config). No idea about other programs.

On 11/6/2017 at 7:10 AM, sidfadc said:

Does DSR only work in full screen mode though?  This used to be the case on FSX.  I only have one screen so have to run windowed.

Yes fullscreen only. 

On 11/6/2017 at 7:46 AM, AnkH said:

Means you use process lasso to run UT2, AS, Ezdock etc. on the spare threads? Is there a freeware program capable of telling e.g. UT2 to run on Thread 1 only?

FSUIPC can also do this...you could remove UT2 from where it is currently invoked (the exe.xml or its add-ons.xml entry), and run it from FSUIPC with a [Programs] section and RunX line in FSUIPC.ini, with AM=x?? specified to control the CPU affinity for that program.

Regards

 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
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Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

On 02.10.2017 at 2:07 PM, Cruachan said:

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

While this chart may not be wholly representative of what is possible in P3D it does lay out the relative capabilities of each high-end GPU using standardised benchmarking software. Currently, if you take pricing into account, the 1080Ti is, without a doubt, king of the hill.

Mike

 

Thanks, for the chart. I have a GM200-A (Maxwell) based 12Gb GeForce GTX TITAN X so I don't know where exactly my card falls in the chart. It is not a GTX 980Ti but it's not a TITAN X (Pascal based). Do I need a 1080Ti for noticeable performance gain for my pending P3Dv4 install? My screen resolution is 2560 x 1440

Dirk.

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56 minutes ago, Dirk98 said:

 

Thanks, for the chart. I have a GM200-A (Maxwell) based 12Gb GeForce GTX TITAN X so I don't know where exactly my card falls in the chart. It is not a GTX 980Ti but it's not a TITAN X (Pascal based). Do I need a 1080Ti for noticeable performance gain for my pending P3Dv4 install? My screen resolution is 2560 x 1440

Dirk.

I would start with what you have got.  :cool:

Bert

8 hours ago, Dirk98 said:

I have a GM200-A (Maxwell) based 12Gb GeForce GTX TITAN X so I don't know where exactly my card falls in the chart. It is not a GTX 980Ti but it's not a TITAN X (Pascal based).

The Pascal-based TITAN X is called "TITAN Xp" in the chart. So, your Maxwell-based TITAN X is as "TITAN X" in the chart. Just below a GTX-1070. No need to upgrade such a graphics card, as Bert already has written.

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

3 hours ago, AnkH said:

The Pascal-based TITAN X is called "TITAN Xp" in the chart. So, your Maxwell-based TITAN X is as "TITAN X" in the chart. Just below a GTX-1070. No need to upgrade such a graphics card, as Bert already has written.

That's the problem. If you click on TITAN X it says in the specs "Other names:  NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal)", but if you click on TITAN Xp it says in the other names just TITAN Xp. As to other specs my current EVGA GTX TITAN X 12GB Hybrid (Maxwell) shows:  Base Clock: 1152 MHz / ; CUDA Cores: 3072; Memory Detail: 12288MB GDDR5 Memory Bandwidth: 336.5 GB/s

So I'm lost, is it an older one, or a decent one comparable to the best top ones?

Thanks.

PS: How to compare:

GTX 1080Ti Core Clock(s): 1480 MHz, Memory Clock(s): 2750 

GTX TITAN X: Boost Clock: 1241 MHz Memory Clock: 7010 MHz

??

For me it seems from the specs my TITAN X is 30% inferior to GTX 1080Ti, time to upgrade for P3Dv4?

Edited by Dirk98

Well, don't take those numbers and names for granted. The two TITAN cards on the top of the list ar Pascal based, the one below the 1070 is Maxwell based. That's it. All other things would not make sense at all, if you compare with other benchmarks.

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

3 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Well, don't take those numbers and names for granted. The two TITAN cards on the top of the list ar Pascal based, the one below the 1070 is Maxwell based. That's it. All other things would not make sense at all, if you compare with other benchmarks.

Thanks, I've finally found my current one, it's in the middle of the list, time to upgrade.

Indeed 30% inferior

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Hello !

I just got to make my flying much better this weekend following the suggestions above. So, I would like to make this public to help somebody else get good results from Prepard3d 4.5.

My system is composed of a Main Board ASUS B450 processor Rayzen 2700X 16 cores and a video board NVIDIA GTX 1070, 16 GB main memory, four monitors connected, one of them with VC, and other with external plane view. The other two monitors run with auxiliary 2D screens. Resoluiton 4k on the main monitor.

I was even used to fly with 8~10 fps in very difficult way, having to turn everything off when departing and landing.

Then I read the considerations above and had a wonderful progress. Using affinity mask of 65535 and FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.1, everything else made minor minor changes. I more than doubled FPS as a result and now can play freely with the other settings, putting the cursors to the right for all settings, having even Airbus 319x and 320X from FlightSim Labs running smooth with no shaking in approach and depart any more. I also limited FPS to 24 to free CPU power for use at around 90% on core 0. This caused the Video Board to present to work more effectively, now loaded with more than 70%. No problems with cooling, air in my case, with the boards raising to around 70 degree Celsius. I understand that for flight simulation you do not need more than 24 FPS. 

Before this changes, the boards seemed quite lazy, with 20~30 percent load.

Hope this helps somebody. I was tired of having inefficient advices from the Internet, and people saying "my system runs at 65 FPS steadily, I made this and this and this". I do not believe that !

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