The last Update destroys Microsoft Office!

[Alti 65]

Hello!

the latest Update from PMDG install "Microsoft Access Database engine 2010 (Spanish)" on my Computer.
this program is needet by RAAS, what i can not use, while it destroys my Microsoft Office 2010 - all Versions.

You can read the solution from Microsoft here:

https:\\support.microsoft.com/de-at/help/2956215/-one-of-your-object-libraries-is-missing-or-damaged-error-when-you-open-files-in-word-or-excel

I have deinstalled this, but then my P3D Crash.
Please give an solution to can fly my PMDG Planes, 777, 747 without RAAS installed!
Ist not possible for me to Change from 32-Bit MS Office to 64 Bit-Office, cause the installer is no  available from MS.

Thanks Thomas

 

 

 

[Nighthwk 566]

I don't even think there is a 64 bit version of office. With office 2010, you are out of the life cycle of that product. The version you have now is the latest version for that particular version. How does it destroy your Office? Like it won't open or is something corrupted? Have you tried reinstalling Office? Something PMDG installs shouldn't break Office, otherwise you'd be seeing more topics relating to this. Maybe Kyle could chime in if he happens to stumble upon this topic?

[markdf 84]

4 minutes ago, Milton Waddams said:

I don't even think there is a 64 bit version of office. With office 2010, you are out of the life cycle of that product. The version you have now is the latest version for that particular version. How does it destroy your Office? Like it won't open or is something corrupted? Have you tried reinstalling Office? Something PMDG installs shouldn't break Office, otherwise you'd be seeing more topics relating to this. Maybe Kyle could chime in if he happens to stumble upon this topic?

There is definitely a 32 and 64 bit build of MS Office, MS did publish both - we've got the MSDN Volume License ISOs for both builds on the storage server at work.  I'm not able to shed any light on the error though, I avoid touching Microsoft Access in the same way I'd avoid the bubonic plague.

Sadly I'm not able to provide Thomas with an install disk since I highly doubt he's using the VL version so his key wouldn't work (and I can't share ours for obvious reasons), but I can say that if he is able to obtain a copy of the install disk (from any source) his license is both legal and valid to be used with the 64 bit version as well (much like the licensing for Windows.) Microsoft don't care where the install media comes from as long as the key being used is legitimate so he wouldn't be breaking any rules by just downloading the install disk ISO if he uses his own key with it.

[PMDG777 231]

5 hours ago, Alti said:

Hello!

the latest Update from PMDG install "Microsoft Access Database engine 2010 (Spanish)" on my Computer.
this program is needet by RAAS, what i can not use, while it destroys my Microsoft Office 2010 - all Versions.

You can read the solution from Microsoft here:

https:\\support.microsoft.com/de-at/help/2956215/-one-of-your-object-libraries-is-missing-or-damaged-error-when-you-open-files-in-word-or-excel

I have deinstalled this, but then my P3D Crash.
Please give an solution to can fly my PMDG Planes, 777, 747 without RAAS installed!
Ist not possible for me to Change from 32-Bit MS Office to 64 Bit-Office, cause the installer is no  available from MS.

Thanks Thomas

 

 

 

To be fair here, you're using a very old office version on Windows 10 (I believe I saw you mention that in another thread). Microsoft don't even support your office version anymore so complaining about compatibility issues with unsupported software isn't really going to go anywhere. 

Oh and the last update didn't "destroy" your office installation. Nothing in your installation is "destroyed". There's an incompatibility between two softwares. That isn't destroyed.

[downscc 1,327]

Installing an access module will not effect Excel unless you have configured it to act as a client to access.  Maybe you have a configuration problem.  I still use Office 2010 too and only recently dumped Outlook in favor of Thunderbird but there is not replacement or Excel so it stays on my Win7 machine indefinitely.  I imply no substitute that doesn't require a subscription or access to the Microsoft cloud.

[PMDG777 231]

2 minutes ago, downscc said:

I imply no substitute that doesn't require a subscription or access to the Microsoft cloud

Off topic but FYI you can buy non-Office365 versions of the latest Office 2016(2017?). They're a few hundred bucks but it's outright, no subscription and you can disable the cloud (you don't have to create a Microsoft account for it).

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4 minutes ago, PMDG777 said:

Off topic but FYI you can buy non-Office365 versions of the latest Office 2016(2017?). They're a few hundred bucks but it's outright, no subscription and you can disable the cloud (you don't have to create a Microsoft account for it).

Good to know, since retirement I've had much less need for Word, only use Excel in conjunction with  fltsim (it is an easy way to plot VAS vs time) and I haven't opened Access.  Still, I will check out the pricing to see if I'm interested. Thanks Chris.

[Demious 23]

The best way to prevent this kind of problems is separate your software. A flightsim PC is for the flightsim and install everything else on a work-PC. I always have two PCs, my main PC, with ONLY flightsim software and another work-PC (my old/former flightsim PC) for everything else.

In this way you can do all your internet stuff on your work-PC, where everything you download gets scanned for viruses and such and like this you can turn everything like Defender and Virus software, off on your flightsim PC, so those programs can bother your sim in any way.

All 'work' software I've got, like Office and World of warcraft and audio/video software and name it, runs just fine on my 8 year old PC and this way I can leave everything that has nothing to do with my sim, off of my fllghtsim machine.

[markdf 84]

3 hours ago, Demious said:

The best way to prevent this kind of problems is separate your software. A flightsim PC is for the flightsim and install everything else on a work-PC. I always have two PCs, my main PC, with ONLY flightsim software and another work-PC (my old/former flightsim PC) for everything else.

In this way you can do all your internet stuff on your work-PC, where everything you download gets scanned for viruses and such and like this you can turn everything like Defender and Virus software, off on your flightsim PC, so those programs can bother your sim in any way.

All 'work' software I've got, like Office and World of warcraft and audio/video software and name it, runs just fine on my 8 year old PC and this way I can leave everything that has nothing to do with my sim, off of my fllghtsim machine.

Theirs much wisdom here - the more jobs the same PC has to handle, the faster it clogs up.

An alternate in the same vein when cash won't stretch to two PC's is to use/buy a second drive, and have two separate Windows install - whenever you boot you'll be presented with a menu allowing you to choose which copy of Windows to start, allowing you to keep both sets of tasks away from each other.

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Autodesk has a technical tip for solving this problem: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad-civil-3d/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-install-64-bit-Microsoft-Database-Drivers-alongside-32-bit-Microsoft-Office.html

Thank Mats Johansson on our beta team for finding this.  Bottom line is FS2Crew developer of RAAS needs to be notified.

[Bob Scott 7,720]

The freeware Apache Open Office has a nice and fairly powerful spreadsheet program in addition to its full-featured word processing...I use it for radio antenna modelling and a host of other semi-advanced applications.  It reads and writes excel-formatted files, too.

I think I may have Office 97 installed on one old Win XP machine I keep around, but since then I've been using Open Office 4

Cheers

[PMDG777 231]

9 hours ago, Demious said:

The best way to prevent this kind of problems is separate your software. A flightsim PC is for the flightsim and install everything else on a work-PC. I always have two PCs, my main PC, with ONLY flightsim software and another work-PC (my old/former flightsim PC) for everything else.

In this way you can do all your internet stuff on your work-PC, where everything you download gets scanned for viruses and such and like this you can turn everything like Defender and Virus software, off on your flightsim PC, so those programs can bother your sim in any way.

All 'work' software I've got, like Office and World of warcraft and audio/video software and name it, runs just fine on my 8 year old PC and this way I can leave everything that has nothing to do with my sim, off of my fllghtsim machine.

That’s all well and good but not everyone has the money or space for two computers. In my opinion, computers are ugly looking things so the less of them I have the better. I certainly wouldn’t buy another one to clog up my office.