flyalways

thoughts on v3 & v4

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I have been  testing & comparison  with v3 and v4  for about a month now.  

To be honest, I do have feeling, v3, is more stable than v4 currently.  

V4 has quite few addons that are compatible with 64 bit platform.

Some sceneries from v3 are not compatible with v4 yet, you'll see 3rd party

aircraft bouncing on the ground and to the sky, also, when, mesh started to get messed up and FPS dropped during night time, which I am sure there will be going to be hotfix in the future.   but currently, I love v3 more.   

for v3, I do have showing VAS 2.5GB remaining, thus I don't have problem yet so far now, 

If you plan to move to  v4, go ahead, get both of them, you won't regret it, but time will going to tell whether you want 64bit .  

there are pros and cons  having both.  

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I am completely surprised to read this assessment. I find version 4 much more stable, much more problem free while providing a significant performance improvable in all areas, and loads all my extensive add-ons.

Something wrong here with one of us, or one of our machines and equipment.

Kind regards,

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16 hours ago, SpiritFlyer said:

I am completely surprised to read this assessment. I find version 4 much more stable, much more problem free while providing a significant performance improvable in all areas, and loads all my extensive add-ons.

Something wrong here with one of us, or one of our machines and equipment.

Kind regards,

 

hmm..probably with my equipment.  I have older core i5 with higher ram v4 works normal, but adding 3rd party requires probably better CPU.  

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I only installed V4, wondering what the upgrades were from V3?  So far V4 has proven reliable and robust with quite a few bug fixes noted from its FSX roots, improved landclass and so on.  The in suite graphics settings work on my card with no Nvidia tuner tinkering.  With FSX I had to use Nvidia tuner to get things to look right.

John

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Mine is steady as a rock, straight out of the box. Just stay away from non v4 addons

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5 hours ago, flyalways said:

but time will going to tell whether you want 64bit .  

I am sure time will tell us all we want 64 bit. :cool: You may have some problems now due to incompatible addons or new bugs but in the end I am 100% certain v4 is the version to get. Just as all others here I do not have any problems with v4. Well, apart from the fact that loading a flights sometimes pauses a while at 82%. But that's not a real problem to me. Other than that v4 performs better, looks better, well, simply IS better. :happy: After not using v3 for some 10 months I am very happy to be back with v4.

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V4 works for me without problem. But like @willy647 says: Stay away from non-v4 addons.

Otherwise everything works fine for me with all kinds of addons installed. With v3 I would have gotten an OOM instantly after loading up :-D

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18 hours ago, willy647 said:

Mine is steady as a rock, straight out of the box. Just stay away from non v4 addons

 

Yes, I think I have to agree on you with this one.  

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The problem is shoehorning incompatible add-ons into v4.

Doing the same with v3 will have an similar result, an FUBARed P3D installation.

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17 hours ago, swiesma said:

V4 works for me without problem. But like @willy647 says: Stay away from non-v4 addons.

Otherwise everything works fine for me with all kinds of addons installed. With v3 I would have gotten an OOM instantly after loading up :-D

 

I have core i5 16gb RAM and I haven't had OOM on v3 yet,

but don't install v3 sceneries to v4.  things will get quite messed up.    

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actually guys i am still pretty happy running on P3D version 3.4 i would honestly like to upgrade to P3D 4 but before doing that i am just wondering if i shouldn't in the first place upgrade my system and switching to W10 which is as follow:

W7 64 SP1, Intel 7-3770K CPU@3.50 GHZ, 16 GB ram, 223 GB SSD drive,  GTX TITAN. 

any thoughts would be appreciate.

henry

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1 hour ago, flyalways said:

 

I have core i5 16gb RAM and I haven't had OOM on v3 yet,  

Even with 128 GB RAM you can easily get an OOM in v3 :-)

It is not about physical memory. VAS is about how much memory you can address with 32/64 bit.

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I actualy reverted yesterday to FSX:SE :(.

V4 is steady, no crashes what so ever, but the Thing with dynamic Vegetation and the lights...this Needs more refinament.

I did revert due the lack of addons: no buss-es, few PW sceneries in EU, no Freeware sceneries at all at this Point...

I will definately wait another year or so to install it again. 

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V4 all the way ...

Stable , better looking and 64 bit.

And it is the future --> developers are going to concentrate on V4 compatibility only

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@GEKtheReaper You can turn off speed trees and dynamic lights?

As for addons: You are right, some of them are still not there for v4.

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15 minutes ago, swiesma said:

@GEKtheReaper You can turn off speed trees and dynamic lights?

As for addons: You are right, some of them are still not there for v4.

Yes! Speed trees i definately turned off (and I'm back to OBX Trees HD). Turning off dynamic lights does work but you will no longer have ACFT lights illuminating the ground (at least not with PMDG 737NGX). So at this Point I have to turn the Setting on.

PS: I hope EDDM gets a v4 Version soon ;).

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16 hours ago, GEKtheReaper said:

I actualy reverted yesterday to FSX:SE :(.

V4 is steady, no crashes what so ever, but the Thing with dynamic Vegetation and the lights...this Needs more refinament.

I did revert due the lack of addons: no buss-es, few PW sceneries in EU, no Freeware sceneries at all at this Point...

I will definately wait another year or so to install it again. 

 

actually I did that too, there was no addon for v4 and I did revert to v3 for some reason.  

 

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I sat on the fence for a very long time enjoying FSX with DX10 fixer.  Finally made the leap over to P3Dv4 this past Monday and will not look back.  The performance out of the box is just jaw dropping and honestly I feel there is no need for external tuners like John said in the first part of this topic.  Other than the huge cost to transition, no regrets at all.  

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I have literally not had a single crash since moving to v4 from FSX-SE. Solid as a rock, massively better performance, looks great. As Dylan said, only downside is the cost of switching. Other than that, total no-brainer.

James

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On 04/09/2017 at 1:26 PM, DylanC said:

The performance out of the box is just jaw dropping...

But you could say the same thing about FSX performance "out of the box" - without any add-ons installed, FSX really flies (sorry about the pun!). It's only when you start to add things to it that performance gradually drops off. The only fair comparison would be with the same add-ons installed in each.

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Performance with compatible addons is also jaw dropping - I was flying around NYC-X and it was silky smooth. Even got a "wow" out of the wife as she walked by...

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12 hours ago, vortex681 said:

But you could say the same thing about FSX performance "out of the box" - without any add-ons installed, FSX really flies (sorry about the pun!). It's only when you start to add things to it that performance gradually drops off. The only fair comparison would be with the same add-ons installed in each.

FSX out of the box and P3Dv4 out of the box are two very different animals.  You can clearly see the difference, but I understand what you're getting at.  Anyway, I have since installed most of the addons I had in FSX with the exception of REX and P3D remains rock solid at 25-30 FPS. Even if there is a further degradation in FPS temporarily, you don't really notice since the Sim remains smooth.  There in lies the major difference between FSX being 32bit and P3Dv4.

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On 9/4/2017 at 1:35 AM, willy647 said:

Mine is steady as a rock, straight out of the box. Just stay away from non v4 addons

Does this include non v4 aircraft or just scenery/weather/etc?

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