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Thanks for posting.  Do any real JS41 have a GTN 750?  I didn't see one in any of the real world photos I saw.  I really liked the FMS it used to have.  Really looking forward to flying her again.  I'd wish PMDG would reuse their turboprop engine modelling on another aircraft. 

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So the old basic FMC is not included anymore? That's a pity, it really contributed to the plane being different from other airplanes. 

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Did I hear that it’s just the GTN 750 or default gps 500?

it would be good if options for the smaller 650 and older GNS systems would be included as I’m guessing that’s more likely for this type?

on a side note, that’s a Facebook post and a YouTube video with zero said on the actual forum? 

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I probably will not buy this aircraft without the original FMC.  The GTN 750 does not have an updateable nav database.  I realize, maybe the few aircraft remaining, may be removing the uns.  However, pretty much every single one of these planes had the uns at one point.  I wish to fly this plane how it was flown in the airlines for 20+ years, not how the remaining few, mostly private, operators fly them.  The previous uns in the FSX version was excellent.  As to why it wouldn't be included, puzzles me.

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Probably because it would take much more time to recode the original system for 64 bit and would drive up the cost of the airplane, it's not a system that they would potentially reuse on a future aircraft.

I for one welcome the GTN.

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2 minutes ago, Slayer said:

Probably because it would take much more time to recode the original system for 64 bit and would drive up the cost of the airplane, it's not a system that they would potentially reuse on a future aircraft.

I for one welcome the GTN.

The original fmc wasn’t even a pmdg development. It was done by Ernie Alston. I’m guessing he’s busy with the QW 787 at the moment. 

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Just now, GHarrall said:

The original fmc wasn’t even a pmdg development. It was done by Ernie Alston. I’m guessing he’s busy with the QW 787 at the moment. 

Ah that explains a lot. Thx for the info.

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The thing i do not understand is why they are "rushing" through all their products... We already have a turboprop (DC-6) and so i do not see an immediate need for the bae41.

We are still waiting on the 748 the ops center 2 and pigeonworks is under development.. .. 

I think this is a bit widespread and can be then end in higher cost for their products.

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1 minute ago, 30K said:

The thing i do not understand is why they are "rushing" through all their products... We already have a turboprop (DC-6) and so i do not see an immediate need for the bae41.

The DC-6 is not a turboprop, it has piston engines. Douglas did consider making a turboprop DC-7, with Rolls Royce Tyne engines, but it never made it past the drawing board stage because they were making the DC-8 by then.

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10 minutes ago, 30K said:

The thing i do not understand is why they are "rushing" through all their products... We already have a turboprop (DC-6) and so i do not see an immediate need for the bae41.

We are still waiting on the 748 the ops center 2 and pigeonworks is under development.. .. 

I think this is a bit widespread and can be then end in higher cost for their products.

Different teams are working on different projects, so other team is working on JS41, other on the 748 other on the oc2 etc etc . As already noted the DC6 isn't a turboprop and can't compare to the JS41.

And believe me there is no rush in any product :)

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15 minutes ago, 30K said:

The thing i do not understand is why they are "rushing" through all their products... We already have a turboprop (DC-6) and so i do not see an immediate need for the bae41.

We are still waiting on the 748 the ops center 2 and pigeonworks is under development.. .. 

I think this is a bit widespread and can be then end in higher cost for their products.

We do already have the 747-400 :dry:

 

there are people who like marshmallows and there are people prefering a steak... 

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14 minutes ago, Chock said:

The DC-6 is not a turboprop, it has piston engines. Douglas did consider making a turboprop DC-7, with Rolls Royce Tyne engines, but it never made it past the drawing board stage because they were making the DC-8 by then.

DC-8? Is that a typo? 

 

Edit: Forget it... Douglas, not PMDG :laugh:

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2 minutes ago, Ephedrin said:

DC-8? Is that a typo? 

Nope, it's a jet airliner :biggrin:

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Just now, Chock said:

Nope, it's a jet airliner :biggrin:

 

haha yes.. I misread your post and thought PMDG had a DC-8 in production xDD

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1 minute ago, Ephedrin said:

 

haha yes.. I misread your post and thought PMDG had a DC-8 in production xDD

Damn, I wish that were true, although to be fair the JF one isn't bad now it has been patched up and made P3D V4 compatible.

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5 hours ago, Chock said:

The DC-6 is not a turboprop, it has piston engines. Douglas did consider making a turboprop DC-7, with Rolls Royce Tyne engines, but it never made it past the drawing board stage because they were making the DC-8 by then.

Classic Douglas.  They loved stretching out designs for as long as possible before they needed to make something completely new. I've got to admit though, they did it very well and you were left with an excellent aircraft by the end of that cycle... :happy:

(Shame that they were late on the DC-8 though, their slower reaction to the imminent jet age was what let [along with that lucrative military contract for the KC135] Boeing cement themselves into commercial aviation and eventually absorb Douglas. [Along with many stuff ups and a few other key factors. I think that part of that demise was their constant want to expand on an existing airplane instead of going all out on a new one. There are many risks in doing that though.])

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45 minutes ago, VHOEI said:

There are many risks in doing that though.

Indeed.  Douglas was a strong competitor but Boeing has the knack for going way out on a limb and betting the farm on a new airplane.  They've done that several times and more than once almost went out of business.

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Huge bummer that the GNS-XLS is gone. I appreciate the option for other units, because more options is always better, but at the expense of the original FMC is disappointing to say the least.

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Just now, richcam427 said:

Huge bummer that the GNS-XLS is gone. I appreciate the option for other units, because more options is always better, but at the expense of the original FMC is disappointing to say the least.

Try not to succumb to the simmer mentality that the FMC is the pinnacle of glory. Most operators of this type now have replaced the old unit for a much more capable GPS unit.

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4 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

Try not to succumb to the simmer mentality that the FMC is the pinnacle of glory. Most operators of this type now have replaced the old unit for a much more capable GPS unit.

I do know that, but I've never seen a Jetstream with a GTN. I've seen plenty of Jetstreams with GNS430s and 530s, so I hope that we'll have the option to integrate the F1 GNS units as well (like the DC-6.)

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