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Quick question for the PMDG staff. I recall about a year ago (or more) that PMDG announced a partnership with FDS and was planning a Sim Center featuring the 747-400. Is there any followup to this?

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It's going to be on the east coast.  KHEF if I'm not mistaken, just south of Washington Dulles.

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8 minutes ago, Angelo Cosma said:

Quick question for the PMDG staff. I recall about a year ago (or more) that PMDG announced a partnership with FDS and was planning a Sim Center featuring the 747-400. Is there any followup to this?

East Coast: KHEF (just south of KIAD)

B747-8 Sim, so, as one might expect, given that the 8 isn't out yet...no :laugh:

 

Midwest? I'm curious as to where that idea came from. I don't think you'd catch any of us dead there...especially me. My family is from North Dakota. Visited once (to include Saskatchewan). That was more than enough.

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1 minute ago, scandinavian13 said:

East Coast: KHEF (just south of KIAD)

B747-8 Sim, so, as one might expect, given that the 8 isn't out yet...no :laugh:

 

Midwest? I'm curious as to where that idea came from. I don't think you'd catch any of us dead there...especially me. My family is from North Dakota. Visited once (to include Saskatchewan). That was more than enough.

Hahaha! Yeah I must of just sputtered an area with no real recollection. KIAD seems like its ringing a bell now. Didn't realize it was the -800. Awesome, it'll be interesting to see what avionics suite (Maybe PSX?) and how the control cursor units work once this is all formalized. 

I've built and maintained a couple 737NG sims from FDS and Agronn in my past line of work so these kinds of things are right up my alley. Will Nat from Nat Vis be doing the visuals? 

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3 minutes ago, Angelo Cosma said:

Hahaha! Yeah I must of just sputtered an area with no real recollection. KIAD seems like its ringing a bell now. Didn't realize it was the -800. Awesome, it'll be interesting to see what avionics suite (Maybe PSX?) and how the control cursor units work once this is all formalized. 

I've built and maintained a couple 737NG sims from FDS and Agronn in my past line of work so these kinds of things are right up my alley. Will Nat from Nat Vis be doing the visuals? 

Angelo, What PSX has to do with it? It will run with our 747-8 software.

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4 minutes ago, Angelo Cosma said:

Didn't realize it was the -800.

It isn't the 800, either. That doesn't exist.

4 minutes ago, Angelo Cosma said:

Maybe PSX?

Why would we spend all this time making software, only to use someone else's?

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5 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

It isn't the 800, either. That doesn't exist.

Why would we spend all this time making software, only to use someone else's?

Sorry meant the -8, and now I am getting. If you rewind about 3-4 years ago it was very challenging to incorporate full flight decks that ran off the PMDG platform. Most of my comments come from that timeframe so I am now being reminded of the advancement and project direction. 

I am very pleased to hear this and am even more eager to see what lies ahead. While companies like ProSim, PSX, Project Magenta are great. They all have their pros and cons, so it will be very nice to have PMDG software running with the flight model and systems logic. 

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29 minutes ago, Angelo Cosma said:

If you rewind about 3-4 years ago it was very challenging to incorporate full flight decks that ran off the PMDG platform. Most of my comments come from that timeframe so I am now being reminded of the advancement and project direction. 

Yep. I think the 744 has a bit of the basics in the background, as the 8 will build on it, but our primary testing is on the 8 software to the 8 hardware, and what we learn there should be rolled back and/or carried over as appropriate.

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49 minutes ago, scandinavian13 said:

East Coast: KHEF (just south of KIAD)

B747-8 Sim, so, as one might expect, given that the 8 isn't out yet...no :laugh:

 

Midwest? I'm curious as to where that idea came from. I don't think you'd catch any of us dead there...especially me. My family is from North Dakota. Visited once (to include Saskatchewan). That was more than enough.

Well, I'm watching "Fargo" at the moment, so I can see where you're coming from. Looks nice, but might get a bit boring in the winter. 

Dublin is actually higher (53 degrees North) but because of the Gulf-Stream, we very rarely get snow in these parts. 

 

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20 minutes ago, Jude Bradley said:

Well, I'm watching "Fargo" at the moment, so I can see where you're coming from. Looks nice, but might get a bit boring in the winter. 

My grandma gave me a shirt that said "Minot: 32 below to keep the riffraff out."

I think that says enough, on multiple issues...

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1 hour ago, scandinavian13 said:

East Coast: KHEF (just south of KIAD)

B747-8 Sim, so, as one might expect, given that the 8 isn't out yet...no :laugh:

 

Midwest? I'm curious as to where that idea came from. I don't think you'd catch any of us dead there...especially me. My family is from North Dakota. Visited once (to include Saskatchewan). That was more than enough.

Lol... 14 years ago I was in Grand Forks with a student exchange... The UND, GF AFB, Cirrus and a potato factory are pretty much everything I have seen of the USA :biggrin: OK, we did a weekend trip to the Mall of America in Minneapolis but that’s actually been the highlight xD But hey, at the UND I‘ve been inside of one of the very first Premier 1 aircraft :D and inside a KC135 on the Air Force base ^^

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6 minutes ago, Ephedrin said:

we did a weekend trip to the Mall of America in Minneapolis but that’s actually been the highlight xD

Keep that one quiet...might give Paul flashbacks...

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Kyle, What is the mission of the PMDG sim center?

Cockpit orientation for professional pilots?

Entertainment....,I mean training for PMDG staff?

Purchasable sim time for the public?

Training for purchasers of the PMDG 747-8?

Just curious,

Ted Striker

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The purpose is to lure fellow simmers into looking for this simulator and having them check for the status every 6 months for the last 3 years and finding there is no real news on it.  (wow - Pauly's mad).  I gave up on it -  I booked my full motion 777 last week in sunny Miami for February and will make take my golf clubs along as well  (Pauly likes golf too).  I bet the LD757 comes out before the PMDG sim is complete (wow Pauly's is crazy).

 

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9 hours ago, paulyg123 said:

The purpose is to lure fellow simmers into looking for this simulator and having them check for the status every 6 months for the last 3 years and finding there is no real news on it.  (wow - Pauly's mad).  I gave up on it -  I booked my full motion 777 last week in sunny Miami for February and will make take my golf clubs along as well  (Pauly likes golf too).  I bet the LD757 comes out before the PMDG sim is complete (wow Pauly's is crazy).

 

Paul, we have said multiple times the sim is based on -8. Since the -8 is not out yet how do you expect to have the sim ready?

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16 hours ago, Ted Striker said:

Kyle, What is the mission of the PMDG sim center?

Cockpit orientation for professional pilots?

Entertainment....,I mean training for PMDG staff?

Purchasable sim time for the public?

Training for purchasers of the PMDG 747-8?

Ted,

The mission is kinda two-fold:

  1. People have asked for a while about hardware integration, as our stuff integrates will in some areas, but not in others. All of the research and work of getting our software to work in better harmony with the FDS hardware seems to work out pretty well for just about any other hardware manufacturers. Additionally, in order to make this even more function in a full flight deck environment, the functions can be offloaded across a network (one comp for the sim visuals, one for the aircraft, and so on), which is another somewhat related request of that same audience.
     
  2. A lot of the sim community (Paul, case in point) likes to try to fit in time in full flight deck sims that exist out there. These are usually found at training centers, and those centers are all about speed of processing ("here's situation A, here's situation B, here's situation C, now get out"), and not really at how simmers use the aircraft (gate to gate, usually). While it's cool to experience a full deck like that, the experience (for simmers) usually leaves a lot to be desired. The experience will/can be tailored to whoever wants to come in and hang out. I'm sure it'll evolve a bit, but as an example, you could show up and sit left (or right, if that's what you prefer) seat, and one of us could sit in the other seat to be part of the crew for a flight - real time or otherwise - or however long you have it booked.

More about both in this video here, from RSR himself (jump up to 20:25 for the hardware points; 25:35 for the Sim Center):

 

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4 hours ago, scandinavian13 said:

The mission is kinda two-fold:

Thanks for clear explanation and link Kyle. I'm glad to hear that the sim center will be accessible to simmers.

I hadn't seen that video of RSR's presentation before and was amused by his comment regarding airline pilots not enjoying their required sim time as they were usually being tested. I was very fortunate to get some sim time at the United Training Center in Denver when it was made available to attendees of the Avsim conference in Denver years ago. My hour in the 747 was spent performing a startup, taxi, takeoff, landing, and shutdown. When I got to the 737 I told the United pilot who had volunteered his time to run the simulator for the Avsim event that I just wanted to fly and do as many touch and goes as I could. Since I didn't have another person with me, the United Pilot took the copilot seat. Before we realized it my allotted hour was up and someone was ringing a buzzer telling us to shut down. The United Pilot was alarmed as I was and quickly shut down the sim. He then thanked me and said he had never had so much fun in a simulator because he was normally in them being tested under intense pressure for procedural correctness not practicing carrier landings.

Ted Striker

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