Treetops45

Setting up XP-11 views to mimic P3D v4 Keyboard assignments??

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I am currently flying P3D v4.1 & learning XP-11 via the demo module.

I intend to end up using both flight sims & am trying to get the Keyboard settings in XP-11 to be the same as those for P3D v4.1, where possible.

The idea being to be able to switch from one sim to the other without having to recall 'differences' in the controls.

 

At the moment I am focused on Views, & in P3D v4.1 keyboard Views, I have the S key set so that pushing it sequentially will cycle the View from Virtual Cockpit (Cockpit View), to Outside Spot, then Tower View & finally Angle view.

When I am on any of those primary Views, by hitting the A key sequentially  I can cycle through the sub-views associated with that primary  View. 

Shift + A will take me back 1 sub-view & Shift + S will take me back 1 primary view.

 

Is there any way to set the above structure up in XP-11 via Settings/Keyboard/Views?

So far I have not been able to find the ability to run a sequence of views by hitting the same key.

It appears that each view needs its own unique key stroke.

Thanks

T45

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I have that an exact question. I think a file containing the P3Dv4 views settings could be applied to X-Plane. Who knows and how?

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On 3/6/2018 at 3:46 PM, Treetops45 said:

I am currently flying P3D v4.1 & learning XP-11 via the demo module.

I intend to end up using both flight sims & am trying to get the Keyboard settings in XP-11 to be the same as those for P3D v4.1, where possible.

The idea being to be able to switch from one sim to the other without having to recall 'differences' in the controls.

 

At the moment I am focused on Views, & in P3D v4.1 keyboard Views, I have the S key set so that pushing it sequentially will cycle the View from Virtual Cockpit (Cockpit View), to Outside Spot, then Tower View & finally Angle view.

When I am on any of those primary Views, by hitting the A key sequentially  I can cycle through the sub-views associated with that primary  View. 

Shift + A will take me back 1 sub-view & Shift + S will take me back 1 primary view.

 

Is there any way to set the above structure up in XP-11 via Settings/Keyboard/Views?

So far I have not been able to find the ability to run a sequence of views by hitting the same key.

It appears that each view needs its own unique key stroke.

Thanks

T45

1. Is there any way to set the above structure up in XP-11 via Settings/Keyboard/Views?

No

2. It appears that each view needs its own unique key stroke

Yes

In my opinion you will get far more out of X-Plane by using the settings provided rather than trying to make it  like P3D or FSX or whatever. It's just a different beast and does things differently You could try and search for a plugin that let's you cycle views. Or maybe your joystick/throttle controller has software that will let you do that? Also and it depends on your keyboard but you could setup a macro that when pressing 'S' it cycles through the keyboard shortcuts you are talking about.

Did you see this?  https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/15665-cycle-views/

 

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Go to keyboard menu on X-Plane and at the bottom, select FSX from the dropdown list. now you have the keys as fsx. not sure about the views, but all other key should be the same

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Stick with XP's view handling. It's just so much better than the one in MSFS.

I really like the quick views (CTRL+[Number on numpad] to assign, [Number on numpad] to use) as they make 2D panels superfluous and the transitions are cool.
And the free camera ("C" key) is really useful.

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9 hours ago, Celis said:

Go to keyboard menu on X-Plane and at the bottom, select FSX from the dropdown list. now you have the keys as fsx. not sure about the views, but all other key should be the same

I can't find it in XP11. Goto keyboard and at the bottom I don't see FSX listed. Am I missing something?

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Alex, I really enjoyed your clip and what a plane, amazing flight. I will check on XP11 view settings to find FSX profile. Many thanks

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22 hours ago, trisho0 said:

now you have the keys as fsx.

Like what? Number keypad from keyboard doing nothing. Spacer+mouse, and "S" so far doing nothing. Still XP11 same keyboard settings. Maybe XP11 is looking for FSX settings file which doesn't exist until we place one in somewhere?

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I've never used that feature, it wasn't there until X-Plane 11, so my guess is that it works for basic stuff, flaps, engines. That's why I posted that not sure if it will work with views. 

I use voiceattack, so I don't need to remember all the keys for every sim.

https://voiceattack.com

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Try it, I think it's wortht it. When I switched to X-Plane 4 or 5 years ago, one of the things that immediately impressed me was the ease of view controls.

Being able to look around in the cockpit with the mouse without having to use two hands (another for the space bar), and having the option to quickly access 10 (now 20 in XP11) freely configurable cockpit views per aircraft without needing an addon like EZDOK were the biggest "wow" factors. 😊

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Have to agree the XP view system is far better than FSX/P3D. I use the SimpleCam program in P3D because it actually imitates the XP view system (ability to assign Numpad keys to specific views).  🙂

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Make a small investment in X-Camera.  It has the capabilities of Chaseplane and much much more.  Keyboard assignments are very easy.  Wouldn't be a problem at all to assign the "a" and "s" keys to advance views.  At the same time, you can setup many categories of views, each with it's own set of cameras.

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Really? Shift plus 4 for interior and then shift plus 9 for exterior view is easier than simply right clicking your mouse and having a menu come up with most views accessible ?

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7 hours ago, warbirds said:

Really? Shift plus 4 for interior and then shift plus 9 for exterior view is easier than simply right clicking your mouse and having a menu come up with most views accessible ?

Agreed those shift-key assignments are not easy but the customisable Quick Views for the NumPad keys are a stroke of genius. 

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Not missing 2D panels at all thanks to the numpad shortcuts.

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The only thing I have not liked about Xplane11's views is that interior views, like wing views, default back to the cockpit when I cycle back from spot view and I have to set them up again, although I only do this on a few aircraft anyway, I wish I could revert back to the view I just left rather than back into the cockpit, which I only like to be in when the autopilot is off and I am hand flying for takeoff or approach and landing.  I changed some of the view keys to make it easier to pan when my joystick is not in use.  But I do not mind the differences between Xplane and P3D otherwise, they are just different sims and I accept them as that.  After hours of use my memory just remembers the different keystrokes between the sims and I can switch easily and seamlessly.  I only use the view switches when playing back a recorded flight so I can share screenshots in the screenshots forum, or record a rare video.  But that is about it for me.

John

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I can access any custom view from spot view or other hot key views by simply pressing the appropriate key on the number pad.

And I think the view even cycles back to the previous view if the view's hotkey is pressed again.

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12 hours ago, Cactus521 said:

I wish I could revert back to the view I just left rather than back into the cockpit, which I only like to be in when the autopilot is off and I am hand flying for takeoff or approach and landing.

If you press a numpad key, you get the associated quick view. If you press it again, the previous view is recalled.

Also, you can program a view on the fly with CTRL+numpad. Just decide which numpadkey you want to use for that temporary point of view.

 

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22 minutes ago, Pascal_LSGC said:

If you press a numpad key, you get the associated quick view. If you press it again, the previous view is recalled.

Also, you can program a view on the fly with CTRL+numpad. Just decide which numpadkey you want to use for that temporary point of view.

 

Thanks so much, great to remember, will try it out now......

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Is there a posted list to assign keys in X-Plane like in fs9, FSX or P3Dv4?

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