March 21, 20188 yr Administrators 17 minutes ago, cobalt said: I strongly disagree. 3.4 GHZ is certainly not "very tiny". I have an Alienware X51 computer with an i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz processor, Windows 7, a GEX 1060 video card, and I run FSX (with a wide range of high-definition scenery) with almost all sliders maxed out except water (which I have at mid-high). I experience smooth performance with FPS ranging from 50 to above 100 outside a few high-density airports, and even in those places I see FPS >20 in most cases. You absolutely do NOT need 4-5 GHZ to have good to excellence performance. And along with your high-definition scenery, are you running high-quality payware aircraft with payware weather producers and other such eye candy? I run very good quality photo-realistic scenery and airports with a 2 GHZ CPU and 2 GHZ memory and sliders well right, but as soon as I try a payware "demo" aircraft I come almost to a complete halt. Everyone can only run what they can! Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
March 22, 20188 yr 14 hours ago, cobalt said: I strongly disagree. 3.4 GHZ is certainly not "very tiny". I have an Alienware X51 computer with an i7-2600 @ 3.4 GHz processor, Windows 7, a GEX 1060 video card, and I run FSX (with a wide range of high-definition scenery) with almost all sliders maxed out except water (which I have at mid-high). I experience smooth performance with FPS ranging from 50 to above 100 outside a few high-density airports, and even in those places I see FPS >20 in most cases. You absolutely do NOT need 4-5 GHZ to have good to excellence performance. It's been said many times in these forums that talking about settings and performance means little unless you also say what screen resolution you use. If you use 1920x1080 or less, your results are not surprising. If you use 4K then, with your hardware, they're remarkable! I agree that a 3.4GHz processor is not "very tiny", but if you run at QHD or 4K then I'd say you do need a minimum of 4GHz for acceptable performance with certain payware add-ons. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
March 23, 20188 yr On 3/21/2018 at 4:20 PM, charliearon said: And along with your high-definition scenery, are you running high-quality payware aircraft with payware weather producers and other such eye candy? I run very good quality photo-realistic scenery and airports with a 2 GHZ CPU and 2 GHZ memory and sliders well right, but as soon as I try a payware "demo" aircraft I come almost to a complete halt. Everyone can only run what they can! I have a good deal of payware scenery but very few payware planes. As has been noted in this and other forums many times, quality is not restricted to payware, and there are many excellent freeware products out there -- notwithstanding the fact that some simmers are fixated on the idea that if it ain't payware it must be junk! In any case, I am seeing crisp, sharp scenery and aircraft with smooth performance at high screen resolution (not sure of the exact number -- I am away from my home computer at .the moment) and most sliders maxed out. That's all I can say.
March 23, 20188 yr 4 hours ago, cobalt said: As has been noted in this and other forums many times, quality is not restricted to payware, and there are many excellent freeware products out there I couldn't agree more. However, the add-ons which seem to put the biggest load on FSX tend to be payware. 4 hours ago, cobalt said: I am seeing crisp, sharp scenery and aircraft with smooth performance at high screen resolution (not sure of the exact number -- I am away from my home computer at .the moment) and most sliders maxed out. With your system specs, unless you've somehow found the illusive magic setting, I'd be surprised if your screen resolution was higher than 1920x1080. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's worth mentioning the resolution so that it doesn't give others, with similar systems to yours, false expectations. Edited March 23, 20188 yr by vortex681 i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
March 26, 20188 yr On 3/23/2018 at 3:53 PM, vortex681 said: I couldn't agree more. However, the add-ons which seem to put the biggest load on FSX tend to be payware. With your system specs, unless you've somehow found the illusive magic setting, I'd be surprised if your screen resolution was higher than 1920x1080. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it's worth mentioning the resolution so that it doesn't give others, with similar systems to yours, false expectations. Point taken, and thanks. However, my eyes and brain would be unlikely to detect higher resolution than what I already have, so for me this is an academic exercise (similar to the never-ending obsession with achieving higher FPS levels that are beyond the ability of human eyesight to detect).
March 27, 20188 yr 23 hours ago, cobalt said: Point taken, and thanks. However, my eyes and brain would be unlikely to detect higher resolution than what I already have, so for me this is an academic exercise (similar to the never-ending obsession with achieving higher FPS levels that are beyond the ability of human eyesight to detect). Just to confirm, my screen resolution is indeed 1920 x 1080. As this affords photographic quality, I have no reason whatsoever to want to increase it.
March 27, 20188 yr 3 hours ago, cobalt said: Just to confirm, my screen resolution is indeed 1920 x 1080. As this affords photographic quality, I have no reason whatsoever to want to increase it. I wasn't suggesting for a moment that you should - I'm a great believer in sticking with what works for you. I just think that people should always state their screen resolution when discussing performance as it has such a significant effect. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
March 30, 20188 yr Author On 3/20/2018 at 1:30 AM, cmpbellsjc said: Spending more money won’t eliminate the out of memory situation, that will only be resolved by settings and what you have installed. You haven’t told us what settings you are currently using but I can tell you that I run a modest system (2700K at 3.85ghz, 8GB RAM, GTX670 4GB, Win 7 64bit) and have all the PMDG planes, countless addon airports (FSDT, Flightbeam, FlyTampa, LatinVFR, etc), WOAI cargo + UT2, ORBX stuff, UT USA/Eu, bunch of photoreal scenery and I’ve configured it to maintain at least 25 FPS or higher at all addon airports and never run out of memory. I don’t use any addon sky, water or scenery textures larger than 1024 and am careful about settings (no road traffic, no boats, no airport vehicles as most addon scenery provides that). If you post your settings and addons we can give more info on what to turn off/down that can help you get more FPS and not run out of memory. Since I started FSX in 2009 I’ve only had one OOM and it was due to the first release of the PMDG NGX that had an issue that was later fixed in a service pack. Aside from that one time, I’ve never had another out of memory situation. My computer specs: Windows 10 Home, 64-bit Intel Core i7-4770 @ 3.40 GHz, 4 cores, 8 logical processors BIOS: AMI 80.16 RAM: 8 GB Hard Drive: 1 TB GPU: NVIDIA GT640 with 2GB VRAM FSX Settings: Target Frame rate: 30 FPS Resolution: 1920x1080 Global texture resolution: High Only "Advanced Animations" is checked Filtering: Trilinear No anti-aliasing Aircraft casts shadow on ground: on aircraft casts shadow on itself: off aircraft landing-lights illuminate ground: on LOD radius: medium Mesh complexity: 50 Mesh resolution: 152 m Texture resolution: 5 m Water effects: high 1.x Scenery complexity: dense Autogen density: normal no ground scenery shadows Special effects detail: medium Weather: I use ASN Airline traffic density: 50% GA traffic density: 50% Airport vehicle density: high road vehicles: 14% Ships and ferries: 15% Leisure boats: 0% No aircraft labels I also use FTX vector, a traffic addon which I can't remember the name of, GSX, and Navigraph Charts. I have airport addons such as FlyTampa and UK2000. Edited March 30, 20188 yr by SoloPilot forgot a section Matthew Lewandowski
April 2, 20188 yr Interesting thread Ithink the GT640 is limiting the OP. That's a pretty low end card. I think a GTX 1060 would help fps even at 1080P. The prices are still too high right now though | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
April 2, 20188 yr Moderator 1 hour ago, ryanbatcund said: Interesting thread Ithink the GT640 is limiting the OP. That's a pretty low end card. I think a GTX 1060 would help fps even at 1080P. The prices are still too high right now though I doubt it. I ran FSX with an E8400 and GTS250 for years and was still able to fly the NGX into large aftermarket hubs with traffic and maintain 25 to 30 FPS. It’s all about settings. GPUs don’t make that much difference in FSX like they do in P3D. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
April 2, 20188 yr Moderator On 3/30/2018 at 2:36 PM, SoloPilot said: FSX Settings: Target Frame rate: 30 FPS Resolution: 1920x1080 Global texture resolution: High Only "Advanced Animations" is checked Filtering: Trilinear No anti-aliasing Aircraft casts shadow on ground: on aircraft casts shadow on itself: off aircraft landing-lights illuminate ground: on LOD radius: medium Mesh complexity: 50 Mesh resolution: 152 m Texture resolution: 5 m Water effects: high 1.x Scenery complexity: dense Autogen density: normal no ground scenery shadows Special effects detail: medium Weather: I use ASN Airline traffic density: 50% GA traffic density: 50% Airport vehicle density: high road vehicles: 14% Ships and ferries: 15% Leisure boats: 0% No aircraft labels I also use FTX vector Try changing the settings you have above to the settings I marked below. The aircraft shadows and car traffic can make a difference. It would be helpful to know what AI pack your using. If WOAI, then the 50% settings are not working because they compile most of their traffic to be either 0% or 100%, so setting it to 50% is the same as 100% which will cause a big FPS hit at large airports. Also, I’ve always foinfo on both my rigs that when flying planes like PMDG stuff, I get much better performance running unlimited FPS than locked. When flying less demanding aircraft, I have to lock it to 30 otherwise it stutters to much. FSX Settings: Target Frame rate: Unlimited Aircraft casts shadow on ground: Off LOD radius: high Airline traffic density: 50% GA traffic density: 50% Airport vehicle density: Off - zero road vehicles: Off - zero Ships and ferries: Off - zero Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
April 2, 20188 yr Author 5 hours ago, cmpbellsjc said: Try changing the settings you have above to the settings I marked below. The aircraft shadows and car traffic can make a difference. It would be helpful to know what AI pack your using. If WOAI, then the 50% settings are not working because they compile most of their traffic to be either 0% or 100%, so setting it to 50% is the same as 100% which will cause a big FPS hit at large airports. Also, I’ve always foinfo on both my rigs that when flying planes like PMDG stuff, I get much better performance running unlimited FPS than locked. When flying less demanding aircraft, I have to lock it to 30 otherwise it stutters to much. FSX Settings: Target Frame rate: Unlimited Aircraft casts shadow on ground: Off LOD radius: high Airline traffic density: 50% GA traffic density: 50% Airport vehicle density: Off - zero road vehicles: Off - zero Ships and ferries: Off - zero I now remember, the pack I have is (removed name). Edited April 2, 20188 yr by cmpbellsjc Listed name of pirated freeware AI. Matthew Lewandowski
April 2, 20188 yr Moderator 3 hours ago, SoloPilot said: I now remember, the pack I have is (removed name) That AI pack you have is pirated AI. I’d suggest you remove it. I also removed the name of it because it’s against Avsim Terms of Service to discuss pirated software. In anycase, it’s probably not compiled to give 50% traffic anyway. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
April 2, 20188 yr .....how can freeware be pirated? Only way i can think of is that the authur ask it not to be shared, making it not freeware? I feel im missing somthing, but ive only had half a mug of coffee so far Luke Pype
April 2, 20188 yr Author 4 hours ago, cmpbellsjc said: That AI pack you have is pirated AI. I’d suggest you remove it. I also removed the name of it because it’s against Avsim Terms of Service to discuss pirated software. In anycase, it’s probably not compiled to give 50% traffic anyway. Hmm, okay. I guess I’ll go back to UT2, and just deal with not being able to figure out how to add liveries 😂 Matthew Lewandowski
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