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Hopefully this question can get answered by PMDG staff:

 

1. The next update of the 777, which position does it hold in the assembly line (notice that I'm not asking for a release date)?

2. Will it be free of charge, or, if not, will there be a discount for existing customers?

 

Thank you for anwering this question in a decent, customer orientated manner.

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47 minutes ago, CaptainLars said:

Hopefully this question can get answered by PMDG staff:

 

1. The next update of the 777, which position does it hold in the assembly line (notice that I'm not asking for a release date)?

2. Will it be free of charge, or, if not, will there be a discount for existing customers?

 

Thank you for anwering this question in a decent, customer orientated manner.

Lars,

 

Any update for the 777 will happen after the 747-8 release and after making sure that it stable enough.

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1 hour ago, Olympic260 said:

Lars,

 

Any update for the 777 will happen after the 747-8 release and after making sure that it stable enough.

Thank you. I keep fingers crossed then that it's going to b a service update free of charge.

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50 minutes ago, CaptainLars said:

Thank you. I keep fingers crossed then that it's going to b a service update free of charge.

What, exactly, are you expecting will be updated?

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2 hours ago, scandinavian13 said:

What, exactly, are you expecting will be updated?

The question makes little sense, actually. What matters is what should be adressed with an update, not what I expect.

The bugs, to begin with. Stability around the pitch axis. A new windshield rain effect would be in order, too. This would be a nice update.

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23 minutes ago, CaptainLars said:

The question makes little sense, actually. What matters is what should be adressed with an update, not what I expect.

The bugs, to begin with. Stability around the pitch axis. A new windshield rain effect would be in order, too. This would be a nice update.

Lars, I think most would regard the 777 as an extremely stable product. I, personally, haven’t run into many, if any, issues, and it’s been flying like a dream for me. PMDG did say that Rainmaker would be rolled back to the 777 sometime after its debut on the 747 series, which hasn’t happened yet. Hope this helps!

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19 minutes ago, CaptainLars said:

The question makes little sense, actually. What matters is what should be adressed with an update, not what I expect.

It actually makes quite a lot of sense, actually.

Your original post contained no real specific reference to anything that should be addressed with an update. Interestingly enough, despite your assertion that what matters isn't what you expect, your later list includes something that I would argue would be part of your personal wish list, and not simply the obvious fixes.

...which is why I asked. Crazy how that worked, isn't it?

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3 hours ago, CaptainLars said:

Thank you. I keep fingers crossed then that it's going to b a service update free of charge.

All of PMDG’s updates have been free of charge, except entirely new products of course, so there’s little reason to suggest this will be any different.

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It’d be nice to have the whole airplane cast a shadow from the cockpit (as in the 747) rather than just the cockpit itself. Other than that, everything seems great and stable to me.

James

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4 hours ago, scandinavian13 said:

It actually makes quite a lot of sense, actually.

Your original post contained no real specific reference to anything that should be addressed with an update. Interestingly enough, despite your assertion that what matters isn't what you expect, your later list includes something that I would argue would be part of your personal wish list, and not simply the obvious fixes.

...which is why I asked. Crazy how that worked, isn't it?

So you are asking me what I'd expect from an update and then you blame me for making a "personal wishlist"? I inserted this list of bugs and a PMDG announcement because I didn't want to cut completely on communication, but now I see that was foolish. Communication isn't the point.

4 hours ago, Milton Waddams said:

PMDG did say that Rainmaker would be rolled back to the 777 sometime after its debut on the 747 series, which hasn’t happened yet. Hope this helps!

Exactly, that's my knowledge, too. That and some enhanced ground equipment as does the QOTSII have.

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Posted (edited)

which bugs?

Edited by Ephedrin
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58 minutes ago, CaptainLars said:

So you are asking me what I'd expect from an update and then you blame me for making a "personal wishlist"? I inserted this list of bugs and a PMDG announcement because I didn't want to cut completely on communication, but now I see that was foolish. Communication isn't the point.

Lars - I'm confused as to what you want here, which is why I asked in the first place, and immediately got push back from you. Not at all sure why. If someone asked me what I wanted, or expected, I would provide them a straightforward answer...especially if I wanted something.

I wanted to know what you wanted in an update. The answer could have been as simple as "just bug fixes." Instead, I got somewhat of a lecture, and it seemed oddly contradictory, so I pointed that out. I'm not blaming you for anything: I asked a question. It is reasonable to expect a straightforward answer.

There aren't any glaring bugs, so I was curious to hear what you were looking for.

At this rate, though, if you have any direct communication for us: support.precisionmanuals.com. Be sure to submit detailed feedback as to what you're looking for.

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I'm not sure what needs to be updated.  The 777 is so complete.  The only thing I've seem hints of, would be things like the electronic flight bag.  Or maybe rain on the windscreen.

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Posted (edited)

And the shadow update. This is a bit of a recording - breaker when you have a floating flight deck on the taxiway.

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On 5/27/2018 at 8:40 PM, Ephedrin said:

which bugs?

Also curious. I've never encountered any "bugs", except the aforementioned external cockpit shadows, but I believe that happend with the conversion to P3D 4 and is on the list already.

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On 5/28/2018 at 12:18 AM, Mace said:

I'm not sure what needs to be updated.  The 777 is so complete.  The only thing I've seem hints of, would be things like the electronic flight bag.  Or maybe rain on the windscreen.

Both the Minimum Manoeuvre Speed bar and the Minimum Speed bar in PFD seems to be too low (regardless of weight). Has PMDG fixed it yet?

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1 hour ago, 01A045 said:

Has PMDG fixed it yet?

Don't expect product updates/fixes until after the release the B748 and flush any initial problems with it.  The problem was identified a couple of months ago, and if someone put it on a trouble ticket then I'm sure it's in the bug tracking system to at least have someone from the technical side validate it.  This thread isn't the best place to build a squawk list.

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On 5/27/2018 at 10:42 PM, scandinavian13 said:

Lars - I'm confused as to what you want here, which is why I asked in the first place, and immediately got push back from you. Not at all sure why. If someone asked me what I wanted, or expected, I would provide them a straightforward answer...especially if I wanted something.

I wanted to know what you wanted in an update. The answer could have been as simple as "just bug fixes." Instead, I got somewhat of a lecture, and it seemed oddly contradictory, so I pointed that out. I'm not blaming you for anything: I asked a question. It is reasonable to expect a straightforward answer.

There aren't any glaring bugs, so I was curious to hear what you were looking for.

At this rate, though, if you have any direct communication for us: support.precisionmanuals.com. Be sure to submit detailed feedback as to what you're looking for.

I wanted to know when the 777 update would come out and if it would be free of charge. I thought that this update was definitely due. Yes, I want an update. Not because the 777 would be unflyable without, of course, but because it would further round out an already very good product.

I did not perceive your question about what I would be expecting from an update as "straightforward". I rather perceived it as a trap where you would be laughing at the end saying there would be no update at all. That's why I said that it's not the question what I expect, but what's going to be in the update. When you stated, funny or interesting or whatever "how this worked out" I came to believe that my thought wasn't so wrong after all.

The bugs that I mentioned concern tickets that I had submitted. Your detailed knowledge of these tickets is of course not necessary for the initially very limited scope of my questions. As an example, I'll be mentioning the bug that makes your fuel in the auxiliary tanks vanish when you resume a saved flight, subsequently leading to a "fuel imbalance" message (I'm not asking for help on this bug here).

In no way did I want to "drag you through the mud". Most likely I would have even ignored the usual 'taciturnity' of PMDG, but in the other thread, in turn, I felt kind of dragged through the mud (or thrown at with ..., as I expressed it). I won't be looking at the other thread any more.

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