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Finally : NVSurround Distortion Fix from LM

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Finally NVSurround can be used without the fisheye effect.  LM has solved it by making special shaders which corrects the distortion.  

In P3Dv4.3 :

  • Open the Menu taskbar in P3D
  • Go to Views
  • Go to Manage Camera's
  • Fill in a name for the new Camera view
  • At the right from the list at the bottom check  "Wideview"  
  • Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 )
  • Save as Scenario

Fly without distortion ...

 

 

 

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Gerard

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Will this work on triple monitors (stretched image) without NVSurround?

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Sure, as that is stretcher too.

However, with NVSurround you can use bezel management . 

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You can make all camera views with the built in Manage Camera’s ..

 

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Sorry for my skeptisism.... but im a long time user of viewgroups along with fly elysse lcd pro 3x 85 in lcd in 1 pc). 

Are you telling me that i can now streatch the window accross all displays hit alt + enter and im good to go? No need for warping software and viewgroups?

 

this would be excelent news since is a huge performance boost!

 

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9 hours ago, nlgravity said:

Are you telling me that i can now streatch the window accross all displays hit alt + enter and im good to go? No need for warping software and viewgroups?

Unfortunately I fell into the trap here of thinking "marvellous: my 210 degree FOV 3 projector display is going to get a real performance boost."   

But then I read

Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 )

which is, at best, 150 degrees FOV to my calculations.

Sorry. Just not enough. May be okay for your setup?

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 150° would be quite a stretch since you need overlap for the shader so more likely 110 or so 


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5 hours ago, whitav8 said:

 150° would be quite a stretch since you need overlap for the shader so more likely 110 or so 

Yes , 150 degrees , not just 110 degrees. Did you try it yourself before posting ?

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Some of you could not manage to get it to work , so :

In P3Dv4.3 :

Open the Menu taskbar in P3D
Go to Views
Go to Manage Camera's
Fill in a name for the new Camera view
At the right from the list at the bottom check "Wideview"  
Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 )
Save as Scenario
Open the Menu taskbar in P3D
Go to Views
Go to Change View
Choose your custom made View
( I have Saved the scenario at several airports )

 

Regarding FPS :

On my system ( 7940x / 1080 Ti )
-FT EHAM
- True Earth NL
- ASP4 + ASCA + EnvTex
- many sliders Maxed out
- AG buildings + trees : very dense
- AG distance : very high
- LOD radius : ultra

No AI aurcraft !

Left view ( seperate view ) + front view ) 2 monitor : surround ) : 55 fps

One wide surround view over 3 screens + Wideview correction : 92 fps

With Live Traffic : 26 vs 53

——-

Up to P3D V4.2 I used 3 seperate views with a 20 fps lock
When P3D V4.3 came out + TE NL it was very heavy on the system : 12-16 fps

Then I started with left + surround front view : 26 fps
With 1 wide view : 53
 

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9 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

Unfortunately I fell into the trap here of thinking "marvellous: my 210 degree FOV 3 projector display is going to get a real performance boost."   

But then I read

Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 )

which is, at best, 150 degrees FOV to my calculations.

Sorry. Just not enough. May be okay for your setup?

Pete

 

Thank you pete. I guess we still,need viewgroups in uderb 

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Conclusion

Up to 150 degrees FOV you can gain 60% FPS with a triple view setup when using 1 wide view compared to 3 seperate views , while seeing the same. So using the Distortion Fix is the way to go.

If you need more than 150 degrees FOV you need seperate views , which, unfortunately will still give you the low FPS...

- - - 

As far as I look at it : if I had a < 180 degrees FOV setup I would go down to 150 degrees FOV and enjoy higher FPS with more detail .

Over 180 degrees use seperate views , or , if you are able to afford it , use multiple pc’s. Either P3D Professional Plus or WidevieW.

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10 hours ago, whitav8 said:

150° would be quite a stretch since you need overlap for the shader so more likely 110 or so

Yes, forgot about that.  The edges need a bit for blending.

That would be not much more than I had with a single projector and a flat screen.  Then I managed to reduce the distortion of leaning buildings and posts by tilting the view up a little combined with distorting the projected shape. That worked quite well -- I adjusted the zoom to give about 105 degree FOV which matched the distance from my eyes to the screen.

Pete

 


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@GSalden,

      Yes, I didn't check it ,sorry -  just trying to remember what happened with that shader distortion fix effort that was attempted several years ago on the Forums. Then you had to have a lot more image left and right in order to get the proper correction.

      Do you type in the desired view FOV (150 x 88 or so for three 16x9 monitors) to the Camera Manager?

And are we trying to do just an out-the-window scene (cockpit view but no cockpit model) or actually with the virtual cockpit?

Thanks

Dave W.


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