July 15, 20187 yr Finally NVSurround can be used without the fisheye effect. LM has solved it by making special shaders which corrects the distortion. In P3Dv4.3 : Open the Menu taskbar in P3D Go to Views Go to Manage Camera's Fill in a name for the new Camera view At the right from the list at the bottom check "Wideview" Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 ) Save as Scenario Fly without distortion ... 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
July 15, 20187 yr Will this work on triple monitors (stretched image) without NVSurround? Edited July 15, 20187 yr by newtie
July 15, 20187 yr Author Sure, as that is stretcher too. However, with NVSurround you can use bezel management . Edited July 15, 20187 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
July 15, 20187 yr sounds REALLY great!! but i do not know how this works (if) together with chaseplane...
July 15, 20187 yr Author You can make all camera views with the built in Manage Camera’s .. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
July 20, 20187 yr Sorry for my skeptisism.... but im a long time user of viewgroups along with fly elysse lcd pro 3x 85 in lcd in 1 pc). Are you telling me that i can now streatch the window accross all displays hit alt + enter and im good to go? No need for warping software and viewgroups? this would be excelent news since is a huge performance boost! nico The Full Motion Stream Twitch: DAL213 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFrr16hu6X_-mnVaIGJZ5MA? I9 7900X clocked PER CORE @ 5.1 (Cores 0 & 1), 5.0 (cores 2 and 3), 4.8 (all other cores). 64 Gb DDR4 RAM clocked @ 3800 MHz, 3 X Titan Pascal in non-sli. 2 x Koolance EXC 800 external chiller (one for CPU and one for 3 GPUs using Koolance bridge)
July 20, 20187 yr Commercial Member 9 hours ago, nlgravity said: Are you telling me that i can now streatch the window accross all displays hit alt + enter and im good to go? No need for warping software and viewgroups? Unfortunately I fell into the trap here of thinking "marvellous: my 210 degree FOV 3 projector display is going to get a real performance boost." But then I read Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 ) which is, at best, 150 degrees FOV to my calculations. Sorry. Just not enough. May be okay for your setup? Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
July 20, 20187 yr 150° would be quite a stretch since you need overlap for the shader so more likely 110 or so PC=9700K@5Ghz+RTX2070 VR=HP Reverb| Software = Windows 10 | Flight SIms = P3D, CAP2, DCS World, IL-2, Aerofly FS2
July 21, 20187 yr This is great news! Can anyone post the fps when using viewgroup vs this special shader?
July 21, 20187 yr Author 5 hours ago, whitav8 said: 150° would be quite a stretch since you need overlap for the shader so more likely 110 or so Yes , 150 degrees , not just 110 degrees. Did you try it yourself before posting ? 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
July 21, 20187 yr Author Some of you could not manage to get it to work , so : In P3Dv4.3 :Open the Menu taskbar in P3DGo to ViewsGo to Manage Camera'sFill in a name for the new Camera viewAt the right from the list at the bottom check "Wideview" Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 )Save as ScenarioOpen the Menu taskbar in P3DGo to ViewsGo to Change ViewChoose your custom made View( I have Saved the scenario at several airports ) Regarding FPS : On my system ( 7940x / 1080 Ti )-FT EHAM- True Earth NL- ASP4 + ASCA + EnvTex- many sliders Maxed out- AG buildings + trees : very dense- AG distance : very high- LOD radius : ultraNo AI aurcraft !Left view ( seperate view ) + front view ) 2 monitor : surround ) : 55 fpsOne wide surround view over 3 screens + Wideview correction : 92 fpsWith Live Traffic : 26 vs 53——-Up to P3D V4.2 I used 3 seperate views with a 20 fps lockWhen P3D V4.3 came out + TE NL it was very heavy on the system : 12-16 fpsThen I started with left + surround front view : 26 fpsWith 1 wide view : 53 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
July 21, 20187 yr 9 hours ago, Pete Dowson said: Unfortunately I fell into the trap here of thinking "marvellous: my 210 degree FOV 3 projector display is going to get a real performance boost." But then I read Set the zoom you want ( best 0.31 --> has to be higher than 0.30 ) which is, at best, 150 degrees FOV to my calculations. Sorry. Just not enough. May be okay for your setup? Pete Thank you pete. I guess we still,need viewgroups in uderb The Full Motion Stream Twitch: DAL213 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFrr16hu6X_-mnVaIGJZ5MA? I9 7900X clocked PER CORE @ 5.1 (Cores 0 & 1), 5.0 (cores 2 and 3), 4.8 (all other cores). 64 Gb DDR4 RAM clocked @ 3800 MHz, 3 X Titan Pascal in non-sli. 2 x Koolance EXC 800 external chiller (one for CPU and one for 3 GPUs using Koolance bridge)
July 21, 20187 yr Author Conclusion : Up to 150 degrees FOV you can gain 60% FPS with a triple view setup when using 1 wide view compared to 3 seperate views , while seeing the same. So using the Distortion Fix is the way to go. If you need more than 150 degrees FOV you need seperate views , which, unfortunately will still give you the low FPS... - - - As far as I look at it : if I had a < 180 degrees FOV setup I would go down to 150 degrees FOV and enjoy higher FPS with more detail . Over 180 degrees use seperate views , or , if you are able to afford it , use multiple pc’s. Either P3D Professional Plus or WidevieW. Edited July 21, 20187 yr by GSalden 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
July 21, 20187 yr Commercial Member 10 hours ago, whitav8 said: 150° would be quite a stretch since you need overlap for the shader so more likely 110 or so Yes, forgot about that. The edges need a bit for blending. That would be not much more than I had with a single projector and a flat screen. Then I managed to reduce the distortion of leaning buildings and posts by tilting the view up a little combined with distorting the projected shape. That worked quite well -- I adjusted the zoom to give about 105 degree FOV which matched the distance from my eyes to the screen. Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
July 21, 20187 yr @GSalden, Yes, I didn't check it ,sorry - just trying to remember what happened with that shader distortion fix effort that was attempted several years ago on the Forums. Then you had to have a lot more image left and right in order to get the proper correction. Do you type in the desired view FOV (150 x 88 or so for three 16x9 monitors) to the Camera Manager? And are we trying to do just an out-the-window scene (cockpit view but no cockpit model) or actually with the virtual cockpit? Thanks Dave W. PC=9700K@5Ghz+RTX2070 VR=HP Reverb| Software = Windows 10 | Flight SIms = P3D, CAP2, DCS World, IL-2, Aerofly FS2
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