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Microsoft voices in P2A

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Anyone know ifcthe Ceroproc voices which are text to speech voices for Win 10, will work ?

 

Also can I specify a voice for mem the pilot, and or specific controllers.... or is it all random ?

Thnx.

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Yes Cereproc voices work, I've got 4 of them and 1 Ivona voice, I also use a couple of the better default voices too.

 

Yes you can set different voices for controllers and the pilots comms voice.

Cheers, Andy.

Hi Andy.

So do you set one voice for your own voice and another for all ATC.... or do you set a vouce for Tower, one for Approach and so on ? How does it work?

Thnx.

I think of "my voice" as you call it as actually being my co-pilots voice, he does all of the comms for me, I just trigger certain parts with my own voice via speak recognition, then let the co-pilot carry on with the rest of the replies to the controller. I have one voice (Cereproc Scottish Stuart) set to exclusively reply on P2ATC (i.e. my First Officer) and I have the same voice assigned in another app called "Self Loading Cargo" which also uses TTS to speak in that app too. Another voice I use as a flight attendant in SLC, then the other 4 or so default and custom voices I have assigned in P2ATC to do things like Tower, Ground, ATIS etc, etc. I just use the random voice feature in P2ATC rather than assigning individual voices to each controller type, because it is easier and feels more natural, rather than hearing exactly the same voice for all towers all around the world.

I you already own P2ATC or you haven't tried the trial version yet, you can test all this for yourself with the default windows voices. 

Cheers, Andy.

OK. Thanks. Will give the demo a try.

Some of the Cero voices sound good, but only if the punctuation in the text they are generated by, is fine tuned.

Thnx again, guess I'll just have to try it.

If you don't have time to try it out in depth you will find a very good video demoing P2ATC at the page below. I don't remember whether the chap uses 3rd party voices or not but its still worth a watch for new or potential users.

 

Cheers, Andy.

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Loving this program, and the options for other voices.  I got some new ones from the free windows download.  Very nice.  I want to make a pool with random voices, yet have a dedicated co-pilot voice.  So, I have "david" as my co-pilot.. and have him listed as the co-pilot on the main drop down menu.  The rest of the menu items for the different parts of the ATC system are all left clear.  

Then, at the bottom I have added about 6 to the "random pool"  I made SURE not to add David, so I would not have the same voice talking back to me.

BUT..  I still get David talking back to me.  lol

How can I have a random pool, yet a dedicated co-pilot?

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Most likely, one of your Random voices is not loading properly for some reason.  When this happens, the program uses a "default" voice which is likely to be David.

You can see what voice is failing by looking in the P2A log file for the flight.

P2A Log files are located in: C:\Users\<UserName>\AppData\Roaming\P2A_200\Logs where <UserName> is your PC user name. 
Portions of the path may be hidden by default, so be sure Windows Explorer has Show Hidden Items checked in the View tab.
A new one is created each time you start Pilot2ATC, and is closed when you shut it down. So if you take the most recent one after you have the error and after you shut down P2A, you should have the correct one.  
Dave

Thanks Dave!  This is great.  Yes, I was able to access the log.  I am looking at it now.. I can see errors where it says it can't write / access the conversation log (.txt) file.

What can I use as a search string to pin point where the voice maybe failing?

8 minutes ago, SunTiger81 said:

Thanks Dave!  This is great.  Yes, I was able to access the log.  I am looking at it now.. I can see errors where it says it can't write / access the conversation log (.txt) file.

What can I use as a search string to pin point where the voice maybe failing?

Update, I just found this...

Voice Load Error.  Attempt to use voice New Voice failed.  Please set the Center voice to a different one.

But, it does not say which one?  (it is randomly pulling them for all parts)

2 minutes ago, SunTiger81 said:

Update, I just found this...

Voice Load Error.  Attempt to use voice New Voice failed.  Please set the Center voice to a different one.

But, it does not say which one?  (it is randomly pulling them for all parts)

Nevermind.. I think I see it now.  

Voice Load Error.  Attempt to use voice Hayley failed.  Please set the Center voice to a different one.

Weird.  It is a Windows voice.  Any ideas on how to make it work, or just forget this one and try something else?

I was also debating buying some voices (Ivonna)  Will this be a safe bet?

Thanks Dave

 

Dave - 

Another note.  One of the things I have notice that makes it hard to do the readbacks, is the fact that the controllers dont use periods after a sentence (no short breath).  This leads to a more grabbled instruction and confusion at the flight deck.  causing me to have to tab over and actually read the text window.

I did a test on the text to voice websites..  Take a look at this example..

"Eclipse Five Two Tango is cleared to Echo November Sierra Delta climb via the EKER1D departure with the EKERN transition then as filed Climb to Flight Level One Zero Zero via the departure Expect higher clearances Six minutes after departure Squawk Five Four Two Three"

Here is a long transmission with no pause at all.  Hearing this and processing this is very hard.  In the real world, there would be some more context with this.   

The simple fix would be like this..

"Eclipse Five Two Tango is cleared to Echo November Sierra Delta.   Climb via the EKER1D departure with the EKERN transition then as filed.   Climb to Flight Level One Zero Zero via the departure Expect higher clearances Six minutes after departure.   Squawk Five Four Two Three" 

THIS made a world of difference!  But, how can this be updated in the P2A?  This seems like a no brainer fix, or maybe there is a way I can adjust it on my end?

 

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On the voices, Haley may be a Windows Mobile voice which will not work in a desktop application like P2A.  Make sure all your voices are Desktop voices.

On the punctuation/pauses, I'll have a look at adding some, but in my experience in the real world, especially on clearance delivery, the controllers rarely take a breath, much less a pause.  It is probably one of the hardest comm interactions to get the hang of.

That makes sense Dave.  For most of it, its fine.  But, then they are saying combined instructions.. There def. needs to be a pause, it does not sound natural and of course makes it hard to understand.  I know what you mean about the real world controllers.  Its hard too!  LOL.  See what you think, I just think if there is a way to add a period, the voice to text will sound more natural then we can fine tune with the speed setting.  When they are reading back the baro, the transition, the approach, and descend all at the same time it sounds crazy.

I was able to isolate the voice problem.  It turns out, it work when it is manually selected (co-pilot for example).  But, when they are in the random pool.. they get errors.  So, it appears the problem is in the random pool.

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