Rob Ainscough

A messy kitchen, 9900K UK edition, 85F but chilly inside

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Thought I'd share the on-going PC build ...

  • wife not happy
  • had to get a 9900K from the UK even though Intel is 1 hour drive away
  • It's 85F out in November but chilly inside 

Having some fun ... hopefully done by weekend of 11/17 (CPU should arrive next week as it has shipped from UK to CA) ... more pictures and video to follow.

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Cheers, Rob.

EDIT: some assembly required...

 

 

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Looks great Rob....well, perhaps not from the wife’s perspective. 

 

Cant wait for some benchmarks,

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Is that a Caselabs case I spy?

Such a pity they shut down. 

Pump/res combo or separate? 

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I think Rob needs to inform his wife, that given his interest in all things hardware and regular tinkering...that a separate extensively equipped extension to the property is required as a tech workshop.

Tell her I said it's okay.

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Goodness, come to realize we have two hobbies:  Flight Simulation and building computers (along with overclocking).Geez, I guess we are all guilty of this (or most of us).

- Time working on increasing computer performance and tweaking=  75%  

- Time spent Flying=  25%  

But wait there's more: 

How can a $50.00 piece of software make us spend nearly  $3,000 every 2 years on average?  And even though we know Intel is fooling us right-in-face, we keep buying their "latest" CPUs just to find out that the performance increase vs the previous CPU  is 2 or  3 FPS.. 

 

What are we thinking ????  🤔🤑

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When I was an active glider pilot I had 20 to 30 flights a year. The ratio of time on the ground at the airfield to time in the air was about 7 to 1 but the time on the ground is a lot of work and good times too and it cost me on average about $3000 a year and that Included glider rental. Puts the hobby into perspective, does it not?

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How can a $50.00 piece of software make us spend nearly  $3,000 every 2 years on average?  And even though we know Intel is fooling us right-in-face, we keep buying their "latest" CPUs just to find out that the performance increase vs the previous CPU  is 2 or  3 FPS.. 

 

If I were a Buddhist, I might say it's related to the "second noble truth". 

We crave new things, new pleasures, greater entertainment. We have a strong desire to please our senses. So we crave the latest greatest PC component in the hope it will bring us flight sim nirvana... only to be disappointed after we habituate to the pleasure of an increase in frame rate or better eye candy and look at our credit card balance.  ☹️ Suffering follows, especially when our beloved ones demand a new designer handbag, after all it's only fair if we've spent big dosh. More suffering ensues. Of course if no increase in frame rate and eye candy is manifest because Intel ripped us off again, the suffering arrives sooner. ☹️

Wheres my Prozac. 

 

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and building computers

 

The human desire to create is responsible for lots of really good things. Okay, and some bad things. For many, it's the process of creating something new that is a driving force behind PC building, the sense of achievement, bringing a new creation into the world. Almost like procreation!!!  :ohmy:   Pretty sure it is for me. The games and applications I run yes, but the creative building process is a big deal. 

All this means that when Rob is building his PC, he is actually pregnant and soon to give birth!!!! 

 

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1 hour ago, martin-w said:

If I were a Buddhist, I might say it's related to the "second noble truth". 

We crave new things, new pleasures, greater entertainment. We have a strong desire to please our senses. So we crave the latest greatest PC component in the hope it will bring us flight sim nirvana... only to be disappointed after we habituate to the pleasure of an increase in frame rate or better eye candy and look at our credit card balance.  ☹️ Suffering follows, especially when our beloved ones demand a new designer handbag, after all it's only fair if we've spent big dosh. More suffering ensues. Of course if no increase in frame rate and eye candy is manifest because Intel ripped us off again, the suffering arrives sooner. ☹️

Wheres my Prozac. 

Well that is about the best summary of our evil Flight Sim affliction that I have seen. I thought we were all just bats##t crazy! I feel much better now!! LOL

Roll Tide!!

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2 hours ago, shivers9 said:

Well that is about the best summary of our evil Flight Sim affliction that I have seen. I thought we were all just bats##t crazy! I feel much better now!! LOL

Roll Tide!!

 

Don't feel better... you were right the first time, but its not just simmers, the entire human race is crazy. 

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17 hours ago, martin-w said:

Is that a Caselabs case I spy?

No, ThermalTake W200 + P200 ... it's the only case big enough for what I needed and currently available.

Some more progress ... CPU, GPU, VRM pumps/reservoirs mounted

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Motherboard and EK block temporarily in place, waiting for CPU...

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W200 + P200 together but not bolted up yet ... MB side

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W200 + P200 pump side with another radiator ... 

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Top view with a twist to show P200 below

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Next will be to get all the coolant lines and quick disconnects setup while I wait for the CPU to arrive ...

Cheers, Rob.

 

 

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I'm exitited to see what you can achive with that build, I can do 5.2 stable without HT, 5.3 is also possible but only in P3D, no benchmarks whatsoever, with the H150 Pro.

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I'm willing to fry the CPU and/or MB, so we'll see what I can do … on a side note, DHL is supposed to deliver my CPU today … so maybe I'll have some benchmarks this weekend.  I'm planning to test P3D scenario (with logged data) at various CPU frequencies from 4.8 to 5.5 (if I can get to 5.5) to see what the performance difference is for each frequency increment … hopefully help folks decide if OC is worth it on this CPU.

Cheers, Rob.

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Hi Folks,

Whenever I see Rob's hardware posts - this image comes to mind:

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Nice... Makes my current WIP 7700K/1070 Ti build look like child's play... Did you notify the power company to expect surges on their lines - LOL...

Regards,
Scott

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16 hours ago, Rob Ainscough said:

No, ThermalTake W200 + P200 ... it's the only case big enough for what I needed and currently available.

 

Looking at the photos, I can't stop and wonder what is coming into this case except the main hardware? Since I see the radiators / water are already in... so what's going to fill the rest of space? All flash NVME accelerated storage-array?

But honestly, an awesome build!

Edited by SimonC

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1 hour ago, scottb613 said:

Did you notify the power company to expect surges on their lines

You can't see it in my pics, but there is a Furman M8S power-on delay unit so each "stage" of power ON is staggered … pumps go on first, then the chiller, then the MB with a single push of a button … get the CPU cool before it gets power.  This should prevent power surge also.

37 minutes ago, SimonC said:

I can't stop and wonder what is coming into this case except the main hardware?

Yeah, that MB does look tiny in the case … there's another 1600W power supply going in the upper W200 unit, 4X 3 channel Fan/Temp controllers, a few more fans, a few old school HD racks (2X 10TB HDDs - offline PR scenery because I have a strong "feeling" I'll be needing lots of space for PR soon), the main drives are Samsung 970/960 EVO's M.2's - 1X 2TB and 1X 1TB that are on the MB.  Once all the hoses and wires are all connected it'll look more "full".

I'll try to keep it reasonably "tidy" inside, but it'll be the ugly duckling compared to some of the artwork cases/builds I've seen over the years.  It's definitely not a "looker" but should be very functional and easy to maintain, hinged doors, and simple lever locks to remove radiators with inline quick disconnects (no or very little fluid loss) and re-usable for future projects.  My first pic at beginning of thread shows the quick disconnect inline of the tubing … this is key part of making the unit very flexible and easy to maintain.

I'm hoping it'll be a good base for long term re-use as new CPU's/MB's/GPUs come out in the future.

Cheers, Rob.

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Thanks for showing your build process! That motherboard looks so tiny in that case! 😁

Half the fun is building a system like this!!!

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Hmm...  I am excited for this CPU. Its my 3 year turn which means, I feel entitled for a new build for Simming. I try not to build short of 3 years from one PC to another.

What I am interested is in how much it can overclock. especially how far we can go on the first 1 or 2 cores only and tone down the other 6 cores to like 4.5Ghz? maybe.  or even down to 4.0Ghz. would we then crank up the first 2 core or thread to 5.5Ghz? :)

For P3D v4.x that would help. For texture loading we have 6 cores running at 4-4.5Ghz and the first two cores for the primary running at 5.5Ghz? Wouldn't that be better than all 8 cores running at 5Ghz-5.2Ghz?

 

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My 9900K CPU did arrive yesterday … very quick delivery from DHL considering it was from UK (Overclockers UK) to US (CA and customs) … shipped Friday (11/2) arrived Monday (11/5) … thanks to currency exchange rates the price was only about $21 more than if I'd got it from Newegg or Amazon (which are still out of stock).

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Cheers, Rob.

EDIT: Tray unit so no fancy box.

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8 minutes ago, SimonC said:

why tray?

Why not?  But choice is very limited … hence getting one from the UK.

Cheers, Rob.

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Has your wife told you what you are getting her for Christmas yet? :laugh:

Ted

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Yes, the new iPad Pro coming out this week … but we just paid down our house recently with a big bunch of cash … which went 80/20 … I'm the 80 … so this is my short window of opportunity right now and I'm taking advantage of it 🙂 … but there are rumblings and she ain't happy about me taking over the Kitchen area … so I need to finish this project up soon or the "cost" will go UP.

Cheers, Rob.

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