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Secondary PC to run ActiveSky, EFB2, PF3

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I have used a second PC for weather injection, ATC, EFB, moving map, and flight planning applications for years, and I see distinct advantages to doing it that way after many iterations of multi-monitor setups and exercises using ancillary apps "on top" of the simulator on a single PC.

Multi-monitor setups have *always* been a headache, especially if the monitors are of different resolutions or type.  Instability, frame rate hits, drivers that don't always support it properly have all been problems to wrestle with over years of trying.  A single monitor on the FS machine has always proven the most trouble-free solution due to its simplicity, reliability, and lack of performance hits.

Having the ancillary programs on a secondary PC allows you to access/manage those programs off to the side without interfering in the primary simulation.  It also gives you the opportunity to employ a different sound system for apps running on the secondary PC--especially nice for ATC apps, as you can select between a headset or a separate side speaker connected to the client PC and adjust volume independent of the sim's sound levels.  Having the sim on the speaker system and ATC on a headset is a natural way to operate.  It's also nice to have the side PC available for a moving map, or for display of charts and approach plates.

As far as performance is concerned, much of the time the main simulation PC (the "server") does have enough headroom for the other programs, but P3D will regularly smack all the cores with near 100% workload (e.g. when loading textures during a scenery tile transition), and while that is happening, there definitely is *not* enough headroom for the computer to handle the sim and several ancillary programs smoothly all at once.  For me, the prime directive in maintaining a smooth simulation is to preserve enough headroom so that the the sim almost never saturates all of the cores at once...peak load is the number to watch and manage to, not average load.

It generally does not take a powerhouse PC to run the ancillary software.  I usually use "hand-me-down" PCs freed up as a result of doing a new build for the sim.  An old laptop may also be pressed into service here.  I think most of us probably have or can cheaply acquire a PC that's past its prime for 3D apps, but still capable in a supporting role.

Bottom line--I think it's a great way to operate.

Regards

 

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Timely subject as my entire flightsim deck is sitting in pieces all over the floor as I am enlarging the computer table to accomodate my Warthog and GoFlight modules. I anticipate getting a new computer very soon and am considering utilizing the current box to network for addons also.

I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm incorrect in my thinking, but doesn't using two rigs require two mouse/mousepad areas and two keyboards as well?

So if I was getting ready for decent using EFB to land at one airport and winds change and I now need to work with the EFB to see what STARS might work, I have to turn to the second mouse and keyboard right?

My brain is so old and full and I KNOW this would be an issue that would take some serious getting use to. I now have two monitors and occasionally will utilize my Surface to follow a tutorial or video. I'm forever trying to use the mouse on my flightsim rig to manipulate my Surface. I do have a Surface keyboard but it is yet another input device in the cockpit.  Might be my age!🤔

Cheers,

Bob

I run a few extra PCs to support P3D.
I run NavDataPro and  Navigraph charts, vPilot client and Aivlasoft EFB all on a Surface Pro, which I think lends itself perfectly to provide an easy convenient interface to utils that benefit from running on an independent screen/interface.

I have other networked systems (4) running other tools which tend not to require user input once the flight is set up and underway.

 

 

 

On 12/30/2018 at 11:04 PM, Radial9 said:

Timely subject as my entire flightsim deck is sitting in pieces all over the floor as I am enlarging the computer table to accomodate my Warthog and GoFlight modules. I anticipate getting a new computer very soon and am considering utilizing the current box to network for addons also.

I'm sure I will be corrected if I'm incorrect in my thinking, but doesn't using two rigs require two mouse/mousepad areas and two keyboards as well?

So if I was getting ready for decent using EFB to land at one airport and winds change and I now need to work with the EFB to see what STARS might work, I have to turn to the second mouse and keyboard right?

My brain is so old and full and I KNOW this would be an issue that would take some serious getting use to. I now have two monitors and occasionally will utilize my Surface to follow a tutorial or video. I'm forever trying to use the mouse on my flightsim rig to manipulate my Surface. I do have a Surface keyboard but it is yet another input device in the cockpit.  Might be my age!🤔

Cheers,

Bob

Hi Bob

If you use a program called Multiplicity you can use 1 mouse and 1 keyboard over multiple PCs. I just had a look at their web site to get the address for you and also noticed they have a 50% off the price sale on at the moment .

Here is the web address     https://www.stardock.com/products/multiplicity/

Ken

Instead of Multiplicity, I use Mouse Without Borders. Its free!

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=35460

 

...Lloyd

Edited by Noell

Lloyd Noel (Ontario, Canada)

Intel i9 [email protected] / NZXT Kraken X73 AIO / MSI MPG Z590 Gaming+ / 64GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance LPX / Gigabyte RTX4080 Super Gaming OC / Dell S3422DWG Monitor / Corsair RM1000e 1KW PS / 1TB WD Black M.2 (Win 11 Pro) / 1TB Sabrent Rocket M.2 .(MSFS2020) / 512GB Sabrent Rocket M.2 (XP12) / 1TB TimeTec SATA (Misc. & FS Support)

3 hours ago, Noell said:

Instead of Multiplicity, I use Mouse Without Borders. Its free!

 

very nice, thanks for this it works great.

Ryzen 5 5600X - Noctua U12A, 32Gb Vengence, Sapphire Pulse 5700xt, WD Black SN750 NVMe SSD

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