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Hi Guys,

Has anyone experienced a 1sec pause after T/O when main gear leaves the runway, particularly B744? This is the 2nd time I've experienced it.

I'm still on p3d 4.3 and have the latest 9195.

 

Regards,

Dario

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I keep meaning to put in a ticket for this... I've done 4 or 5 takeoffs in the -8 and there's a distinct pause right after T/O that wasn't present before this latest update. It's very consistent.

Alex Pugh

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I’ve noticed it too it also comes with a sound like the land gear lever. It’s not a second pause more like .25 of a second.

You can also see it on chewwy94 take off on his flight yesterday from EDDF - VOBL watch from 1:16>

-8F for me Chewwy94 was also -8

 

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Gents,

First try adding this to Prepar3D.cfg  please.

[sound]
time_constant=0

See if is any difference.

Second in PMDG STUP under OPTIONS - SOUND - play with PRE-LOAD SOUNDS and see if is any change.

If none of the above works then is time for the bug list.

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Are your sound drivers up to date? I had a lag in the A2A Bonanza when turning on the Avionics with the GTN installed. A driver update cured it.

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Firstly try watching the Stream, please. Did you watch Chewwy stream, Alex?

Marc mine are completely up to date thank you. Are Chewwy sound drivers out of date? do you think? Did you also watch the stream?

Like the other two have reported it was not there before the update and like I referenced the Chewwy stream. It's a very small stutter with what sounds like the landing gear lever being used when it's not.

The mico pause and sound is around 1:16.20 in Chewwy Stream. It's not the landing gear but sounds close to it. Chewwy raises the gear shortly after. It just sounds similar.

It's no big deal but its there and I've noticed it on every takeoff since the update.

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9 hours ago, Nyxx said:

You can also see it on chewwy94 take off on his flight yesterday from EDDF - VOBL watch from 1:16>

Can you please post a link to that video? Thanks.

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I don‘t care if anyone‘s drivers are updated as long as he doesn‘t ask for advice/ideas. My suggestion was based on my personal experience with my system, not from any crystal balls. 

And no. I have better things to do than watch any streams for an hour sixteen. 

Driver updates had cured stutters on my system and suggestions like that have already helped others. If it doesn‘t on OP‘s system than it was still worth a try. Even without soneone third pouting around. 

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13 minutes ago, Ephedrin said:

I don‘t care if anyone‘s drivers are updated as long as he doesn‘t ask for advice/ideas. My suggestion was based on my personal experience with my system, not from any crystal balls. 

And no. I have better things to do than watch any streams for an hour sixteen. 

Driver updates had cured stutters on my system and suggestions like that have already helped others. If it doesn‘t on OP‘s system than it was still worth a try. Even without soneone third pouting around. 

Marc, I think you should take a min to think your reply before posting. Why you think you can be so rude with your ill thought out reply I have no idea.

First, you don't have to watch the video for 1 hour 16 mins you click on the bar at the bottom and start just a few seconds before the reference time. Hence the time reference.

Your right about checking drivers but that is not the problem for me or the stream Chewwy did.

All you had to do in less time it took to post your reply above was go watch the Stream, no more than 30 seconds of your time,

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10 minutes ago, jgoggi said:

Can you please post a link to that video? Thanks.

Am not sure I'm allowed to link twitch streams on this forum.

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what I am seeing on the 744 is that if I take off with the wipers switched on, they will stop wiping for a short moment right after liftoff. However I dont experience a general stutter asociated to that.

I have all sound to preload and also the CFG fix applied

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3 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Marc, I think you should take a min to think your reply before posting. Why you think you can be so rude with your ill thought out reply I have no idea.

First, to don't have to watch the video for 1 hour 16 mins you click on the bar at the bottom and start just a few seconds before the reference time. Hence the time reference.

You right about checking drivers but that is not the problem for me or the stream Chewwy did.

All you have to do in less time it took to post your reply above was go watch the Stream, no more than 30 seconds of your time,

I thought you meant to watch streams in general. I‘ve indeed misread that part. Pardon. 

Anyway, often when those stutters appear just at the moment when something special happens (like a lift off) sounds change and can cause those lags. I‘ve come to that point by reading about sth similar somewhere else and tried it on my system. 

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20 minutes ago, Sekkha said:

what I am seeing on the 744 is that if I take off with the wipers switched on, they will stop wiping for a short moment right after liftoff. However I dont experience a general stutter asociated to that.

I have all sound to preload and also the CFG fix applied

The PMDG preload all sounds is worth a try agree. But it seems to be not an event that should trigger any sound? I could be wrong!

18 minutes ago, Ephedrin said:

I thought you meant to watch streams in general. I‘ve indeed misread that part. Pardon. 

Anyway, often when those stutters appear just at the moment when something special happens (like a lift off) sounds change and can cause those lags. I‘ve come to that point by reading about sth similar somewhere else and tried it on my system. 

I hear your point but at the point of the micro stutter and the sound, I don't think anything should be triggered at the point in the takeoff. 

Your apology is accepted thank you. Watching a recorded stream is no different to re-watching a youtube vid.

I wish I could link the stream its better than a thousand words.

I hope Kyle @scandinavian13 might have a look and shed some light on this. As I know the PMDG guys like Chewwy94.

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12 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

But it seems to be not an event that should trigger any sound? I

my feeling is also this..

 I only experience the wipers to stutter, not the whole sim, .... maybe this is somehow rainmaker-related ?

or maybe mine is still something different, but that would be strange coincidence ....

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After watching the stream now a few time I think I might have found the problem?

The altimeter in the stream reads 380ft as he is on the runway, after takeoff it does not change until the event we are reporting happens. Then suddenly the sound plays and the altimeter springs to life. That's the point of this event when it happens. 

If I'm being really picky it's like this.

The altimeter stays at 380ft then if you look really carefully it just and I mean just wanted to start increasing then the "click" sound happens for no reason I know of, you see the altimeter spring to life after the event, also you can see a mico pause in the flight directors also.

What's been triggered at that point in the takeoff I have no idea probably only PMDG would know?

The only thing I can think of is, is this the point in time when the altimeter comes alive and that event is the trigger but why the click sounds and micro stutter?

The Chewwy94 vid I'm referencing is the exactly the same as I have had every time, at the same point in time.

The good thing the video is there for a perfect point of reference.

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Been trying to see if I can get some footage I can share here.

This youtube video has no adult content and I hope this is ok to share.

Now, this video is poor but its a guy showing a compilation of his takeoffs and landing with the -8F. He talks over to much and the sound of the sim is low, but....turn the sound up and...

Forward to 24:20

The point at where the "event" happens is there with the sound, it's not only the point were the altimeter moves its the point were V speeds get wiped, he has his takeoff page showing on the FMC.

Its so much better to see on Chewwys

but hey

Here is vid

 

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2 minutes ago, DrJ1 said:

The sound associated with liftoff is the auto brakes clicking off RTO

Well, spotted Michael.

So it well could be a Sound loading problem with the event trigger. He did not get the micro stutter so will have to try preload all sounds.

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meanwhile I still dont see any stutter in the sim itself (scenery) , I also noticed now that not only the wipers but also flight instruments as airspeed, vsi etc hang a moment right after liftoff...so there is definitely something going on

Preloading all sounds does not prevent that.

Did anybody already file a ticket ?

 

best regards

 

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I tried preload sounds last night.

No micro stutter within the sim, but the PFD does like in the chewwy, no I have not put a ticket in.

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After filing a support ticket I found out that for me this seems to be happening only if I start  from a saved flight, and only under certain conditions which I havent been able to isolate so far.  When starting the flight by creating a new scenario I could not reproduce it so far..

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I think what you are hearing is the landing gear lever lock solenoid actuating, when the wing and body gear are tilted,and the body gear are centered after liftoff? This latch prevents the gear lever from being moved accidentally,when on the ground.

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On 1/14/2019 at 3:37 AM, Sekkha said:

After filing a support ticket I found out that for me this seems to be happening only if I start  from a saved flight, and only under certain conditions which I havent been able to isolate so far.  When starting the flight by creating a new scenario I could not reproduce it so far..

It happens to me whether I start from a saved flight or not.

Alex Pugh

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On 1/14/2019 at 10:37 AM, Sekkha said:

After filing a support ticket I found out that for me this seems to be happening only if I start  from a saved flight, and only under certain conditions which I havent been able to isolate so far.  When starting the flight by creating a new scenario I could not reproduce it so far..

forget what I said here...I now think it has nothing to do with flight saving

My theory now is that is has to do with the recording of the "off" time in ACARS..

Maybe you can check if prior to takeoff you have the "out" time field populated,  it seems that only then it happens because ACARS wants to log the "off" time" then after liftoff

 

ahh..our posts just crossed

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