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[27JAN19] It is Sunday. Let's have some PBR for GA and FSX!

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Got some humor? Me too.
I've read this thread with great interest and humor:

Now: what is PBR?
Some people call it physically based rendering, I just name it pretty brilliant reflections (PBR).
It's looking quite the same:
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And what is best: you can enjoy pretty brilliant reflections (PBR) with FSX, with affordable hardware, with general aviation (where the proud owners have time to polish, beware from dust and regularely rewash = pbr).
And you can buy it just now:
https://www.aeroplaneheaven.com/product_swift.php  

Best greetings
Peter

 

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8 hours ago, Opterix said:

And what is best: you can enjoy pretty brilliant reflections (PBR) with FSX

Best greetings
Peter

 

Peter, as the poster above mentioned, PBR is not available in FSX, only the latest version of P3D. 

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C'mon folks!
Of course I've made these pictures with pretty brilliant reflections (PBR) on FSX! Are there any doubts?

The "PBR" that PMDG had mentioned in the linked posting (Pabst Blue Ribbon) may not be compatible with FSX. Don't drink and fly!  😉
What you mean is physically based rendering (PBR) as I mentioned above. You are right, your PBR is not available in FSX. It's eating the performance and dropping the frames and you need a very expensive high-tech PC for running it, as you can read everywhere.
So for me it's quite useless and I prefer the pretty brilliant reflections (PBR) as you can see them in my pictures above.

Note: btw PMDG seem to have lost their humour, because they have deleted my posting with the link to this thread.
What's on? Do they fear my pictures? Do they fear the concurrence like Aeroplaneheaven, Carenado, RealAir/Vertx and themselves who can make quite pretty brilliant reflections without physically based rendering?


Deleting postings from customers is not a good reputation for companies. So sad if they feel they need to do!

 

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Yes, Montie, you are right: pretty brilliant reflections in FSX has little to no impact on frames 👍

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Reading through the lines, a person who has no idea what they're missing or talking about. Cause you're wrong on all fronts. 

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32 minutes ago, dgraham1284 said:

Reading through the lines, a person who has no idea what they're missing or talking about. Cause you're wrong on all fronts. 

Was about to say something similar... I have NO idea what the point of this thread is - or what the OP is rambling on about. What's even weirder; he obviously he seems obliviant to counter arguments or corrections - on the other hand, he seems confidant of his own interpretation of the acronym - unless he's trolling...

Second - why has the OP added a date-prefix, which usually only PMDG is using - the [DDMMMYY]?! (was a bit confused at first, when I saw it, as I, at first, thought it was an official PMDG topic).

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Hey Anders, why so angry and aggressive?
Do you want to say, that you only opened this thread because you thought that it was from PMDG?
Why do you interfere in things you are not interested in?
Why this little tsunami of your negative thoughts?
Hmmm, the AS-mods had closed the Aerosoft A330 Professional Preview Thread. And now you want to teach here on AvSim?

 

Although humour is not explainable, I'll try for the third time for those, who are unable to read or unwilling to understand my very first sentence and unable to realize that I was relating to a thread from PMDG "[26JAN19] It is saturday. ...".
PMDG had mad a joke with PBR = Papst Blue Ribbon.
@ dgraham1284: Papst Blue Ribbon is a beer brand, if you want to know what PMDG are "missing or talking about", as you wrote it.  😉

So I was smiling and wondered what beer has to do with flight simming and thought if I could find a better fitting variant for "PBR". That's all.

I just added some pictures. But it seems that some people don't like these pictures. Why? Because they are made with FSX? Because therefor "PBR" in FlightSimming is not that WONDER as PMDG wants to sell it?

 

Because some guys took it so serious, I add my personal opinion: these mirror-like looking reflections as PMDG have shown on their Queen Of The Sky are rather ridiculous on big airliners. If it's a roll-out of a new aircraft - okay.
But if you are interested in realism its very overdone for 99,9% time in use of an airliner.
But hey -  let's all calm down. It only was a joke from PMDG. A joke with PBR = Pabst Blue Ribbon. Should not make you aggressive. Be happy!
Some need to drink more PBR. PMDG-pilots better drink less 😉

Have a nice sunday!

 

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Hello again,
everybody calmed down in the meantime?
 

I don't want to let this stand uncommented:

On 1/30/2019 at 8:07 AM, dgraham1284 said:

Reading through the lines, a person who has no idea what they're missing or talking about. Cause you're wrong on all fronts. 

If somebody thinks he/she knows better, he/she should give informations and facts, so everybody can learn.
So if some people have lost their humour about what I've written, we can make it academical. But please keep your humour 😉


To give peace to your hearts, I will rename my pretty brilliant reflections (PBR) in this posting into pretty bright/brilliant reflections (PBBR) and explain the differences.
1) PBBR as I use it: pretty bright/brilliant reflections. Nearly perfect for a good looking of metal surfaces and varnished materials. It is an old hat in flightsimming and therefor available in FSX and FS9. Surely even in earlier versions - maybe somebody can give further informations when it came up first. Here is an example how perfectly it looks in FS9: oLLYESQ.jpg%20%20%20
With the so-called alpha-channel the developers can vary the brightness of the reflections in a wide range. No decrease of performance, no impact on frames, because you regularely have it in your flightsim since decades.
I think it is looking very well and in my opinion it's best suitable for aircraft, especially airliners, where you seldom have metal surfaces reflecting like polished mirrors, due to dust, dirt and weathering.

2) PBR as PMDG recently used it: Pabst Blue Ribbon. It's a beer brand. Not suitable with FSX. Only makes the sharp photoreal textures in FSX more and more unsharp, if you drink to much. Maybe you might need it to drink your P3D beautiful, I don't know 😉
Hey calm down, this was a joke. Initially used by PMDG, so please don't blame me for this!

3) PBR as the rest of the world understands it: Physically Based Rendering. Old hat in Computer Aided Design (CAD). You just select the material (i.e. steel, brass, aluminium, chrome, gold, glass, gloss varnish, matt varnish and so on) and the surface quality / surface finish (i.e. roughness, grinding marks) and the computer creates perfect reflections according to the atomic structure of the material, which influences the angle, intensity and colour of light reflections. This is the reason why it's called Physically Based Rendering.
But if you are developer in P3D you have to work with several channels (similar to the alpha channel used in FSX, if I'm allowed to say it like this for a better understanding), balancing several variables by tweaking and experimenting a lot, instead of simply clicking on a material button. So _I_ would not call it PBR what LM has created with P3Dv4.4. I see it more like PBBR (see above), only with more channels. You might call it Busy Experimentally Adjusted Reflections (BEAR).
Not to be mistaken with BEER. Neither with Pabst Blue Ribbon or any other beer brand 😉

I hope you took it with a sense of humor, but you can take it serious, as well. To give peace to your hearts again: I think (I hope) that PMDG sees it like me, that you can't call PBR in P3D "physically based" and this could have been the reason why the idea with Pabst Blue Ribbon came up. But I might be wrong in this case.


Enjoy your sunday!
Peter

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