matthewpow

2019 Business Jet

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It's 2019. In fact, almost a month in (I hope you all know that). That said, what business jet is good out right now (or soon)? I know it's been discussed here before but I would appreciate it if anyone had any recent news on business jets for v4 since mid-2018. Thanks 🙂.

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Falcon 50 from Flysimware is a good plane to start 2019.

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It looks to be getting some major texture upgrades too, it’s now on my wish list.

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Wow. I missed that Falcon50 thread. Vastly improved textures. It'll be much more enjoyable to fly once those drop.

 

In other planes, the Xtreme Prototypes Lear 25 is a fun little beast to fly as long as you're OK with the less-than-accurate systems modeling. For instance, it has autothrottles. The real plane does not. But it's decently well-modeled. It's good-looking. It's a real fuel hog like the real thing so you'll be landing to refuel a lot, which means you get to take off and land a lot. And the 8 track with the 70's funk on it is hilarious.

 

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7 minutes ago, eslader said:

Wow. I missed that Falcon50 thread. Vastly improved textures. It'll be much more enjoyable to fly once those drop.

 

In other planes, the Xtreme Prototypes Lear 25 is a fun little beast to fly as long as you're OK with the less-than-accurate systems modeling. For instance, it has autothrottles. The real plane does not. But it's decently well-modeled. It's good-looking. It's a real fuel hog like the real thing so you'll be landing to refuel a lot, which means you get to take off and land a lot. And the 8 track with the 70's funk on it is hilarious.

 

+1 on the Lear 25 and I would say it's extremely well modeled, (considerably more detail in both the exterior and VC models than the FSW Lear 35). I've replaced the tracks on the 8 track player with my own music, with multiple tunes strung together on each track for extended play. I actually enjoy using it while flying. Neither have terribly deep or accurate systems implementations however. 

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The VC in the Lear 25 in UHD is excellent. Quite a nippy aircraft too. Recommended.

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Im hoping that the XLS finally gets RTM this year. I am sure Carenado will pump another 3/D model with a textured VC out at some point as well. 

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I also missed that Falcon thread. Once they release that, I will definitely look into it. I used to fly the FSW Lear a lot but it is showing its age. 

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3 minutes ago, SunDevil56 said:

The Hawker 850XP is pretty nice also.

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I've never had good experiences with Carenado. I got one of their products a few years back and it looked great, but it didn't fly great and the system modelling was next to none. Have they improved?

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12 minutes ago, matthewpow said:

I've never had good experiences with Carenado. I got one of their products a few years back and it looked great, but it didn't fly great and the system modelling was next to none. Have they improved?

Not really

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Some of their stuff is pleasant to hand-fly but as soon as you want to use that G1000 you find yourself frustrated.

I got their Phenom 300 and it's absolutely beautiful, but the G1000 is atrocious. If you use Navigraph you have to buy the Navigraph extension for it, but if you have the extension installed you can't auto-load flight plans from P3d's flight planner. And that's a problem because the G1000 is so flawed that it can sometimes be difficult to impossible to properly enter it by hand. So you can either fly it with up to date navigation data that doesn't do you much good because the navigation system is broken, or you can bypass the input process by not using Navigraph, but then you have to deal with 13 year old nav data, and so your pre-loaded flight plan won't work anyway unless you revert your sim back to the past.

Even the basic systems don't work right. Several of the light switches control the wrong lights, etc.

 

It's very frustrating. Lots of us would be willing to throw more money their way if they'd put some effort into the systems, but all they seem to be interested in is making things pretty.

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If you guys know a dev that makes a better 850XP or Piper Cheyenne III, i'm all ears...😎

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That's kind of the central problem of this thread. There is no such thing as a PMDG for bizjets. There probably never will be, which is too bad.

All we can do is give our money to companies showing a willingness to put some effort into it. FSW is one of those companies, and I'll give 'em my money, especially with them paying attention to the looks. I actually bought the plane awhile back. I haven't flown it much because it's pretty immersion breaking to have the whole cockpit look like a bad cartoon, but I wanted to support a company that was making the effort to get the thing flying and operating correctly.

By the same token, I'm not giving any more money to Carenado because they aren't willing to even attempt to get beyond the "pretty little toy" level.

 

 

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If you guys know a dev that makes a better 850XP or Piper Cheyenne III, i'm all ears...😎

This is presumably the difference between yourself and someone like me. I would love to fly a decent Hawker 850XP in P3D (preferably one retro fitted with an autothrottle), but It has to be top notch in all departments, not just the 3D model and textures.

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6 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

This is presumably the difference between yourself and someone like me. I would love to fly a decent Hawker 850XP in P3D (preferably one retro fitted with an autothrottle), but It has to be top notch in all departments, not just the 3D model and textures.

Presumably.

I'm perfectly happy with the Carenado 850XP until something better comes along.

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Isn't EagleSoft working on anything? 😰

I remember their Citation from the FSX days... it was excellent.

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I would prefer the Citation X because it has even longer range, BUT I also like the Falcon 50 so this is great news!  Looking very good!

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Eaglesoft is making a new C750 and I presume it'll be available for p3d v4

It's just going to be a while.  Their C560 was in beta testing for FSX and then they plan to release it for p3d and v4 later.  They typically make study level addons

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Can I mention the FSW Learjet 35A? It's so good and so much fun it's the only reason I haven't purchased their Falcon myself yet. A new update has just been released so support is good. Systems are excellent and so are most of the textures. I'm a fussy PMDG A2A type person and if their planes are 10s the Lear is easily a 9 IMO. Systems 10 textures 8. Looks and works great with gtn750 and rx mikviz WX radar too. 

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The FSw Lear is an excellent add-on as well

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I wouldn't be holding out for Eaglesoft. I get the distinct impression from Ron that it will be another while before we see anything for P3Dv4. Having said that, if what they're offering is as good as their 32 bit Citation X, it will be nice when it finally does arrive.

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This is the only aircraft add-on I am looking to buy - a medium-range, well designed business aircraft with accurate systems. I wish PMDG had gone ahead and created a BBJ model; I wonder why they didn't as surely there seems to be a market for it and while it would have involved some meaningful work a good amount of it must have been done.

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